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Copyright Laws for digital

Unread post by GoofyPEST » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:58 pm

Goofy Queston Alert....

I've been wondering if anyone know how the copyright laws have changed for digital format?

The old format (film) your proof of ownership was the original negitive or slide but now with digital you do not have the "hardcopy" to prove it is yours and yours only.

Any input?

If this has been addressed somewhere else feel free to smack me with a trout.... or please direct me to the thread. Sorry
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Unread post by DuQues » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:16 pm

Just a heads-up, on this site you can download (for free) a little program that will let you watermark your photo's. Not with text, but with a logo or such that you can create yourself. It's a basic program, but it works.
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Unread post by DuQues » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:48 pm

Canon is using Iris watermarking to take photographer’s copyright protection to the next level.

. . . to provide an imaging apparatus that makes it possible to protect the copyright of photographic images by reliably acquiring biological information of a photographer . . . - US Patent Application No. 2008/0025574

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Unread post by bucky » Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:34 pm

You have to register all your shots with a proper copyright agency, normaly govt organisations.

You send in a dvd with thumbnails of all your shots and then you are legally sorted 100%.

At the end of the day if some personal user downloads and uses a shot on his desktop or whatever then so what, they would never have bought that anyway.
Web rez pics are tiny for printing anyway.
If a company uses it for something like an ad etc, then you can score big bucks out of them , made easier if you have registered your shots properly.

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Re: Copyright Laws for digital

Unread post by bucky » Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:38 pm

GoofyPEST wrote:Goofy Queston Alert....

I've been wondering if anyone know how the copyright laws have changed for digital format?

The old format (film) your proof of ownership was the original negitive or slide but now with digital you do not have the "hardcopy" to prove it is yours and yours only.

Any input?

If this has been addressed somewhere else feel free to smack me with a trout.... or please direct me to the thread. Sorry


The best way is to first of all shoot in RAW , these files are often considered a "negative" in digital and are hard to manipulate.
Another trick is to crop any image you put online slightly,then if you have an issue versus another photog or something, you can show your raw uncropped image, and they will only sit with a smaller jpeg.
You will also likely have a sequence of similar shots before and after.

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Unread post by madach » Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:45 pm

Loams wrote:I have always wondered why you good photographers that sell your pics online only put a small copyright notice on your pics? Most of them are in such places that they can be cropped out without losing anything on the picture itself. Also right click protection on web sites mean absolutely nothing. It is so easy to get past that. If I were any good I would splash the copyright right over the centre of the picture

I don't copy protect my pictures because I feel that the resolution which I use to publish pictures on the Internet is not worth protecting. The worst that can happen is that the picture is used on a commercial website. It has happened to me once before. When I complained and threatened legal action (which is actually very difficult) I was paid. If it should happen again then I'll deal with it. Small copyright watermarks won't help against piracy like that and I hate pictures with big watermarks through the middle.

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Unread post by Mgoddard » Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:45 pm

Its like someone was reading my mind...I have sent PM to some forumites asking this question...I have lightroom (that I know nothing about, it came with my 40d), but I have also searched the internet and read that you can program it into your cam? :redface: how, I dont know.... :redface: Im not worried about ppl taking my photo and use it, for now.... I only want my name to appear on my pic...I used the very usefull tool of bordermaker, but sometimes my name is in the middle, on top, or underneath...once I get into the Park for my year it will become more serious and the more I can learn now the better....Bucky, you mean I have to put all my pics on a disk (maybe 1 Million after a year) and send it to some agency :roll: to make sure they are protected.....Please I need all the help I can get...

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Unread post by bucky » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:11 am

Putting all your pics on a disc and registering them with an agency will still not protect you from copyright as such, but it will help if you ever wish to take legal action against somebody.

In digital photo pro for instance you can as a batch resize all your shots to thumbnail and convert to jpeg in 1 go.
If you wish to register your photos then you just send those in, it does not have to be a processed shot or anything, just the basic image as taken.

At the end of the day if you are afraid people will copy your stuff, then don't put it online, nobody can escape copying its just something you have to live with I suppose :?

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Copyright on photos placed on this link or elsewhere

Unread post by pietercl44 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:55 am

How does one protect photos placed here not to be copied and reproduced for someone else's gain?

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Re: Copyright on photos placed on this link or elsewhere

Unread post by bert » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:58 am

Difficult to protect
Best will be resize.
Posting pictures on the forum
2. Although a guideline of 640 pixels x 480 pixels can be applied here, it will only apply if the pic quality and/or detail is not too high as this will increase the kb amount significantly.

You can use a watermark but a clever computer kid can crack that as well

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Re: Copyright on photos placed on this link or elsewhere

Unread post by DuQues » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:19 am

It's easy, what you put on the internet will become the property of everyone. At least, people seem to think so.

What can you do?
Place an ugly watermark on it. It detracts from the photo if placed in the significant bit of the photo (like centered), and, as Bert says, can be removed.
You'll have to live with the fact that your photo will only be seen as an impression.
@pietercl44, there are several programs around, free or payed, but the best option is Adobe Lightroom, which you'll be using anyway.

Resize. Photos which are around 800 pixels on the longest side can of course be stolen and used, but in a very limited way. If puffed up to a larger size it'll become of a lesser quality.

Mess with the DPI. Here I wrote a little thing about it. This makes sure that a printed version will be tiny and of no or little use to anyone. As a very handy little aside it drops a significant amount of bytes without any visible degradation, making for a fastloading photo.

Crop tightly. That, in combination with a watermark somewhere in the side makes sure that people trying to crop out that watermark (easiest to do) will end up with a photo which is just 'not it'.

Live with it! You can search for images with http://www.tineye.com to see if anyone is using it anywhere on the web, and if you find that, see if you can get a removal or money. Don't get your hopes up though.
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Stealing photos / Copyright mark

Unread post by big5spotter » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:44 pm

Hi guys and gals got back from KNP today after 11 awesome nights.I want to know what can I do so that my pics wont get stolen and used by other people?Except taking bad pics :twisted: I have heard that water marks can be taken out by a IT/photoshop geeck.

Any help?
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Re: Stealing photos

Unread post by oddesy » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:06 pm

I think the best way is to embed a copyright in the metadata along with all other info. That way if someone does attempt to steal your image for a competition they will have a very hard time as to delete the metadata would not be an option because as far as i know competitions like that must see the meadata.
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Re: Stealing photos

Unread post by DuQues » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:09 am

There is no fool-proof way.

So resize them to 800 pixels on the longest side (which not by accident is the max for posting here), and resample them this way. Which makes them nice and small, and speeds up browsing in a major way.

And splatter a copyright into it. Not really at the side, as it can be cropped away then, but straight through the photo.
A good person with Photoshop can however repair it...
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Re: Stealing photos

Unread post by Tembe & Kgala » Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:09 pm

you can set your camera to put a copyright on the pictures , in the internal settings of the camera itself.
your pics will be accompanied by "metadatas" , which are basic infos about , aperture , focal length , date, time etc... and : a name , your name , as the photography owner. :dance:


wikipedia:Metadata may be written into a digital photo file that will identify who owns it, copyright & contact information, what camera created the file, along with exposure information and descriptive information such as keywords about the photo, making the file searchable on the computer and/or the Internet. Some metadata is written by the camera and some is input by the photographer and/or software after downloading to a computer.


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