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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by TheunsH » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:40 pm

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Media Release: KNP bans liquor in its public areas
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Date: 9th March 2011

Day visitors to the Kruger National Park will no longer be allowed to bring or consume alcohol in public areas such as parking lots, picnic sites, wildlife viewing areas or roads, gates and all other areas designated as public as from Friday 18 March 2011.

The restrictions will not apply to overnight visitors who will be allowed to bring in own alcohol for consumption in the privacy of their booked accommodation and the restaurants. Like day visitors, overnight visitors will be bound by the same rules of not drinking in public.

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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by Imberbe » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:08 pm

Extensive plans are being put in place to police this. SANParks staff and even some 40 SANParks Honorary Rangers are involved. It is being taken extremely seriously.

No doubt, the first try won't be perfect, but I am sure that a big difference will be achieved.

Overnight visitors may only use alcohol in the vicinity of their accommodation. No drinking and driving, no alcohol at pic nick sites.

According to the law SANParks are completely within their rights to fine transgressors, or confiscate alcohol smuggled in. By entering in to a National Park you agree to a special set of laws, which govern the park. It is the same principal as municipalities having the ability to enact by laws. This is why they can fine you for getting out of your vehicle, something which will not happen in other places.

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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by Goggo EJ » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:05 am

It will be as simple as.......get rid of it or you do not come in. And if you get rid of it into yourself you won't come in either!

By the way, the flyer which will be given to everyone also states 'no smoking except in demarcated areas' - for those who have asked about that rule too.
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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by Elsa » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:39 am

Unfortunately its once again, the minority who can't control themselves that have spoilt it for the majority who can!
Seems to be a fact of life nowadays.

Much like the folks in the cities who don't control their speed, now the rest of us who do, have to endure these infernal speed humps over vast areas, waste fuel, subject our vehicles to extra stress and strain.
Why can't they just hit the offenders hard?

I think that mayor of New York had it right with his policy of getting the small wrongs sorted out and the others bigger ones followed.
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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by GlenD » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:16 am

Overnight visitors may bring in alcohol, but it can only be consumed at the specific accomodation that you have booked

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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by gmlsmit » Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:24 pm

This ban has been implemented for one reason only, the misbehavior of people who do not know their limits and then cause inconvenience to others.

I am in full support of this action by SANParks.
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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by Goggo EJ » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:00 pm

I think security and police will be out in force at the gates to support personnel there!

Logistics will be sorted out this week, as there will have to be some changes in the way we normally operate, but it does seem that SANparks are doing all they can to get the message out beforehand, which will help us.

There will also be people on duty at the picnic areas.
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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by DavenJan » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:12 am

Jan and I had an ongoing conversation this weekend about how KNP are going to 'police' the no drinking in public places part of this new legislation.

It is easy to have extra security at picnic areas, but will they be there all day to catch breakfast/brunch?
Also what about the draught beer sold at Afsaal, is that to be discontinued, or is it considered a bar area?

What about sundowners by the waterhole, how is this to be managed, or are poeple to police themselves?

At Sunset or Mestel or Nsemani or Girivana or Gudzani for example will they have patrols with security wandering from car to car, or could they check all the vehicles leaving a camp for alcohol?
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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by Goggo EJ » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:22 am

RUMURUTI wrote:Great EJ!!

Would love to see you stop a vehicle Rambo style and do a full body search!!!! :D


Fortunately the searching is over to the Security/Protection Services/SAPS folk!!!!! But stopping a vehicle/OSV trying to enter the gate out of line etc is quite within my capability......and I have had the bruises to prove it!
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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by Goggo EJ » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:33 am

The park and ride is not operational at present, although we will try to offer something at Malelane gate if we can.

Just found a loophole that was used by one person.....and will now be blocked immediately. A day visitor decided that she would 'give' her beer cans to overnight guests with a caravan behind her. She then came into camp here to wait for them. Unfortunately she met me. A quick story about exchanging for coke was tried...... I missed the handover because others in the caravan party kept me talking, but all details have gone to management. The loophole will be slammed shut as fast as possible. :rtm:
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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by Sprocky » Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:03 pm

Just made a turn at Phala gate. It is very quiet there and all the new signs are up. I don't think the quota will be reached this weekend due to this new rule. :thumbs_up:

Now just to convince myself that Woolies alcohol free beer is going to taste like the real thing. :wall: That is if they let me in with it. :rtm:

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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by Crested Val » Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:42 pm

We went out through Phabeni this am at 10am to do a quick shop in Hazyview, and the gate had reached it's quota.

On the way back in through Paul Kruger, we were initially mistaken for day visitors, and a very polite guy asked could he search for alcohol, and had we heard of the new rules. When we explained we were overnighters and showed him our paperwork he wished us on our way with a smile!!

Have seen no party goers like we experienced at Christmas and New Year - That was a nightmare!!
As well as no alcohol signs there are no littering signs.

So far it all seems to be working. people coming in to the park are the people who wish to experience Kruger with all it's beauty and abundany flora and fauna. :thumbs_up:

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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by missings.a.! » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:43 pm

I think it is a shame that people cannot enjoy a glass of wine (OK, more than a glass), though I support the ban totally.

If people who only want to visit the KNP to drink and party now look for another venue to make a racket, that is fine by me. Perhaps then, only the very many visitors who love the wilderness and wildlife will visit. What is known as a "win-win" situation.

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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by forestgump » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:37 pm

At Shingwedzi I had to present my overnight permit for intense prolonged inspection , before I could buy a six-pack. :clap:

Was one of the few times that the Shingwedzi day visitors site was not over run by boozers. :thumbs_up:
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Re: KNP bans liquor in its public areas

Unread post by Crested Val » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:55 pm

Here here Foxy!!
Last Christmas Day was a nightmare at Letaba!!
Day visitors area and pool , were full of drunken naked revellers!! The shop was mega busy, and the place just generally wasn't the Kruger we know and love!!
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