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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Caracal » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:54 am

Thanks everybody for your help :D
@ deefstes.. I think I like that Buzzard idea. I was looking through the buzzards myself but seeing that I could not find an exact match I was not sure.

but now I have lightened and cropped my photos even more...so really really shocking quality but now I am wondering about a juvenile Pallid Harrier or Montagu's Harrier. :hmz: I myself have not ever see these two birds in the park but there have been quite a few sightings recently...so I was just wondering.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by deefstes » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:07 am

Caracal wrote:but now I am wondering about a juvenile Pallid Harrier or Montagu's Harrier. :hmz:
No, trust me, it's a Buzzard.

Harriers have much more slender bodies, not nearly as vicious a bill or talons as this bird and are just generally different looking birds. All I can say is that, once you have seen a Harrier, you will not make the same mistake again. They really are different looking birds altogether.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Caracal » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:17 am

deefstes wrote:
Caracal wrote:but now I am wondering about a juvenile Pallid Harrier or Montagu's Harrier. :hmz:
No, trust me, it's a Buzzard.

Harriers have much more slender bodies, not nearly as vicious a bill or talons as this bird and are just generally different looking birds. All I can say is that, once you have seen a Harrier, you will not make the same mistake again. They really are different looking birds altogether.


Then I am happy with a juvenile Jackal Buzzard.....as I said I did think it was a buzzard in the first place..I just didn't expect it to be so difficult to ID...and it is another tick for me for the KTP :D
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:42 am

Sorry deefstes, the SBS I was referring to was the vagrant saddle billed stork, seen recently at Kwang.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by deefstes » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:08 pm

Bush Baptist wrote:Sorry deefstes, the SBS I was referring to was the vagrant saddle billed stork, seen recently at Kwang.

Haha, that would make better sense yes. Still a brilliant sighting for KTP though.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:23 pm

Youbetcha :thumbs_up:
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Dreamer » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:46 pm

I ditto jacliz's comments :D
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by ice » Tue May 12, 2009 11:41 pm

thanks RJ, here's another one: wahlberg's?!

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Rusty Justy » Wed May 13, 2009 12:21 am

Pleasure Ice :thumbs_up: ......The unfeathered legs rules out any eagle.....looks like Jackal Buzzard to me.
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Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Moegaai » Thu May 14, 2009 8:13 pm

Guys, I want to throw a rock in the bush here... RJ, sorry to rain on your parade, but I'm not so sure about the ID of the Jackal Buzzard. Not saying you're wrong, just questioning...

IMHO:

The "Jackal Buzzard" of ice is rather a Steppe Buzzard, possibly sub-adult with that lightish eye.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Rusty Justy » Thu May 14, 2009 8:56 pm

Not a prblem Moegaai :lol: :lol:

As for the Buzzard, which definately is a buzzard....Your rock again has rattled the leaves, although something about it says Juv. Jackal Buzzard (which i've never seen, just going on photos seen in the past) :redface: Things say Steppe Buzzard too..... :wall:

Juv. Jackal Buzzard (Has the barring in wing panel)
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Adult Steppe Buzzard (looks familiar) :D
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by ice » Thu May 14, 2009 9:15 pm

not sure if this will help (the bird in question did not really move) but here's another shot

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Moegaai » Fri May 15, 2009 9:02 am

Morning guys, okay, I think we've agreed. After ice posted the new pic, I agree with RJ's original call that it's a Jackal Buzzard juv. :thumbs_up:

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by ice » Fri May 15, 2009 9:12 am

Moegaai wrote:Morning guys, okay, I think we've agreed Elsa's is a Wahlberg's, and after ice posted the new pic, I agree with RJ's original call that it's a Jackal Buzzard juv. :thumbs_up:


*heavy sigh

I have already had the narrator of my corresponding DVD tell the audience that this is indeed a jackal buzzard - I'm glad I don't have to re-write his script :)

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:01 pm

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Seen 3 weeks ago in Bontebok NP. Is this a black harrier or a jackal buzzard?
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