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Re: Brown Hyena in Kruger?

Unread post by Anthony » Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:00 pm

Thank for the replys and input guys. Very interesting subject. But still no picture from in KNP... hmmm proof is in the picture!!
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Re: Brown Hyena in Kruger?

Unread post by Jose » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:57 pm

A single individual was sighted in (I believe) Sep last year in the southern areas of the Timbavati. Less than 5 kms from the Kruger border (Orpen area).
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Re: Brown Hyena in Kruger?

Unread post by Meandering Mouse » Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:20 am

This is from a rather old book, "Predators of Southern Africa", by Hans Grobelar, Anthony Hill Martin and Clive Walker.

"High densities of Spotted Hyenas are probably the main reaon for their virtual absence from areas like the Kruger National Park ad Hluhluwe Game Reserve".

The book was printer in 1984, but I notice the phrase, "virtual absence", not complete absence.
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Re: Brown Hyena in Kruger?

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:03 pm

Virtual absence 25 years ago probably means total absence today.
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Show us, the unbelievers, a pic please, not somebody's cousin once heard of someone who might.....

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Re: Brown Hyena in Kruger?

Unread post by ndloti » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:06 pm

DuQues wrote:But as for kruger....
Cybertracker has no data at all. There were reports from Woodlands section early 80’s, and more recently Mr. Rob Thomson spotted a brownie at Pafuri in September 2002. Which is quite recent, especially as it's nocturnal.


To the sceptics :
I received independent confirmation of above a few minutes ago .
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Re: Brown Hyena in Kruger?

Unread post by ndloti » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:01 pm

ndloti wrote:I am making enquiries as well .


The section ranger in question has confirmed with my informant (head of a department in scientific services in KNP) that it was on the road to Pafuri gate , no photo , but confirmed .

The report says a renowned predator researcher in the scientific staff at Sanparks knows of 6 confirmed sightings over a number of years (up to the time of the above mentioned sighting)
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Re: Brown Hyena in Kruger?

Unread post by Scipio » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:31 pm

BB, seen one @ Palaborwa gate on the little roads, no pic's though :evil: Trying to catch one so I have to go in often. :wink:

They are there but, dang, rare.....

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Unread post by davejenny » Mon May 18, 2009 7:24 pm

Here's the link for the video of it on YouTube :

I was watching it 'LIVE' on my PC at home in the UK via http://www.wildearth.tv and there's absolutely no doubt that it is indeed a brown hyena :dance: :dance: on 1st May 2009. Pieter Pretorius was the Driver/Guide with Rexon Ntimane on the camera. :cam:

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Re: Brown Hyena in Kruger?

Unread post by ndloti » Tue May 19, 2009 8:15 am

Richprins wrote:Ndloti, yes please! :shock:
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I have permission from the section ranger (the person who wrote the email , who was lucky to see it from 30 m on a tar road - and has witnesses) and the moderators , am awaiting permission via the writer from higher authority in KNP scientific services .
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Re: Brown Hyena in Kruger?

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Tue May 19, 2009 1:30 pm

Nice but brief shot of a brownie on the 10 minute video.
Now for one INSIDE Kruger please.
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Re: Brown Hyena in Kruger?

Unread post by ndloti » Wed May 20, 2009 9:59 am

I cant yet copy & paste this from the pc , so I will quote word for word , except where there are dots where I did not quote a part that would not add to the discussion , and the bold script where I added a comment .:

From : Rob Thomson (then section ranger at Pafuri)
Sent : 17 Sept 2002 10:50 am
To : KNP - rangers ; KNP - Research ; KNP - Regional Managers ; CIS )corporate Investigation Services)
CC : Wouter Jordan ; Phineas Nobela ; Marc Mc Donald ; Leon Serfontein
Subject : BROWN HYENA

Dear all

My parents and I had the most excellent sighting on Sunday night at 19h00 , while we were returning from Lanner Gorge from the west via Pafuri gate . Approximately 5 km east of the Pafuri gate running towards us was the the most magnificent specimen of a large Brown Hyena . Due to its size I assume it could be a female . It was in excellent condition , I could not find a scratch on its face from 30m . It ran in the road for around 30 sec , before it turned and vanished into the bush , its long hair flowing in the wind as it ran away from us .

This is onlysecond wild Brown Hyena I have seen , the first being at Venetia Limpopo reserve . Wilbert Von Voort said he thought he saw one two years ago in the Nyalaland trails area , and Dr Gus (I assume referring to Dr G Mills) reckons there have only been six other sightings(records) in his time in the park (...)

Could they be moving in and out the area , due to positive change in water policy(Pienaar/Mills)? An opinion which I beleive is valid , especially in the long term . (I would assume this would apply to the whole KNP ?)

The spotted "brother" does occur in the area but their numbers are not high , however they are the dominant predator in the Pafuri , while the lion population is minimal .

.......

Hope you find this e-mail of interest .

Anyway it was a priviledge to see this rare species in Kruger .....

Greetings

R. Thomson

Unfortunately no photographic evidence , but this is not hearsay !
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Unread post by Richprins » Wed May 20, 2009 8:05 pm

Thanks, ndloti!

Wow! :dance:

The area is very remote, but the last ranger sighting in the book was at Shantangalani, also north of Punda!

Difficult to agree with the predator theory, as most recent sightings on the thread were around Orpen...infested with predators!

On the other hand, obviously a totally different population, possibly well-hidden due to minimal human traffic!? :thumbs_up:

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Re: Brown Hyena in Kruger?

Unread post by onewithnature » Thu May 21, 2009 12:13 am

This is SUCH exciting news. They should perhaps run a competition in Kruger for anyone to get photographs!
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Re: Brown Hyena in Kruger?

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:04 pm

OK I accept it :clap:

Not many visitors will get to see one in Kruger never mind photograph one.
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Re: Brown Hyena in Kruger?

Unread post by Batmad » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:15 pm

Donny wrote:Guys ,

Just read on the website : http://www.wildlifesightings.co.za" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ,
that a brownie had been seen yesterday (28/07/09) @ 17h10 on the S55.

Checked my map and see that its a loop about 2km outside Shingwezi camp.

Any knows anything about it ? :huh:

Just :clap: to know that they are out there.


This sighting along with this one....
Rookie2009 wrote:Very interesting thread - just read this:


2010/08/30 22:15 Brown Hyaena (1) Shingwedzi Camp
Fence

http://www.wildlifesightings.co.za/Repo ... ark=Kruger" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


this shows me that there seems to be, possibly a loan animal or maybe even a den around the shingwedzi area. Both sightings seen in a fairly close range of time, in the same area.
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