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Unread post by Bush Baptist » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:42 pm

Weekends seem to be safer than midweeks.

Unfortunately these thugs can strike anytime anywhere. Someone needs to be prepared to take them on. Maybe a 'little old lady' in drag......
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Unread post by Bentony » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:49 am

Don't know if this is exactly the right place to post this but it does concern the safety and security of the Table Mountain National Park.'There have been a spate of attacks and robberies on householders and homes in Tokai and surrounding area bordering the SAN Park. The attackers gain access from the forest, often with a vehicle or on foot, and have no shame about arriving with crowbars, sledgehammers etc. There appears to be no access control or security whatsoever except that the forester refuses to allow any security companies to patrol the border and sandtrack.
A family member was attacked in her home last week by persons who drove up the sandtrack and accessed from there. It is obvious that her home had been watched from the tree line. Today walking in the forest she came across a man who suddenly vanished - he had gone up a tree, and when confronted claimed he was waiting for a friend - sure. Clearly he was watching the houses.
The point is that if SAN parks cannot secure their borders they must allow security companies access to do their work for them, but their ongoing refusal to allow access is placing the public at risk. Essentially I hooe they are ready to be held accountable by the public for allowing this public danger to exist whilst refuisng to allow anyone to solve the problem. It is time questions were publically asked about this as it is not acceptable for SAN parks to place its neighbours at risk. :huh:

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Unread post by Bush Baptist » Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:40 pm

This article appeared in the local papers this week.
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Unread post by the pooks » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:21 pm

TM SAG wrote:Hi Alex
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Please folks be careful - be aware. Start developing what we call "recognition skills". You can spot these people if you know what to look for and if you keep an eye on people approaching you. No-one can "just appear" or "come from nowhere". Not possible. Be aware and have a plan.

Stay safe!!!!

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Interesting, or rather, very relevant topic. I have two questions:

1. I know I should be aware. But what do I do when when I encounter suspicious people? What sort of plan can one have?

Two of us were attacked in the Drakensberg in 1987 - my friend was killed (it was well publicised at the time), so I am particularly jittery about walking in the mountains. At this stage I try and walk in large groups and have pepper spray in my bag (although not in my hand). Any other ideas about what one can do? Becoming an expert in martial arts or a master shot is not on my list of things I want to do.

In the Silvermine incident mentioned in this thread there were 4 people in the hiking party - normally considered enough to discourage muggers - the fact that they were mugged despite the size of the group is disconcerting.

2. According to posts on this forum and comments by fellow geocachers, there seems to be people inhabiting Woodstock cave. Why don't the authorities do anything about this?

Thanks for starting this very relevant topic.

Edited to add: I'm feeling bit bad about the potentially belligerent tone of my post (point #1). Your advice TM SAG is very sound and can't be faulted. I was just wondering what does one do when you are walking somewhere on the mountain and you see supicious persons? It seems as if there is nothing you can do except carry on walking and hope for the best. Perhaps phone? The only real deterrent must be to be in a large group, hopefully with some people who look as if they can fend for themselves. Pepper spray and dogs can also help. The gun option is not for me and probably not for many other nature lovers either. Just wondering if there are other things one can do to make the experience safer.

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Unread post by bert » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:24 am

Hummer vehicle

The vehicle will be used by iKapa Honorary Rangers as a highly visible patrol vehicle throughout the park including Signal Hill and Lions Head and Tafelberg Rd in the North. The vehicle will also be used in the south patrolling the road from Boulders through to Partridge point and into the Cape Point section of the park including Buffelsbay, Olifantsbos and Cape of Good Hope. Other areas to be covered will include Scarborough and Noordhoek beach car park.

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Unread post by arghfiza » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:57 am

Hi there!

I'm from Singapore and will be visiting Capetown in late January 09.

Would appreciate your advise. My sister and I are intending to do the Cape of Good Hope overnight hike on our own.

What is the safety record for the Cape of Good Hope trail like? A lot of the information in the previous posts relates to the Table Mountain hoerikwaggo trails itself I think..

Are there any affordable guides for the Cape of Good Hope trail? At nearly R2000 per person for some of the guided walking tour packages I've seen online, it's a bit expensive for me.

Or are there any arrangements for joining other walkers on the trail?

We're really looking forward to doing the trail - your advise would be much appreciated :) Thanks!

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Unread post by Bush Baptist » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:47 am

arghfiza, the info you seek is available on this website under PARKS a-z, and TM nat park.
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Unread post by Tiki » Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:43 am

Is Table Mountain safe if you just do the touristy cable car up and down? We weren't planning to hike or go off by ourselves but we were hoping to get some kind of shuttle there and back from V&A Waterfront.
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Unread post by Bush Baptist » Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:37 pm

Quite safe Tiki,

The nonsense takes place in places where there are not a lot of people, or traffic.

If you want any more info, PM me and I would be glad to help.
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Unread post by Bush Baptist » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:18 pm

From the home page, my words. A 'suspect' was caught on Lion's Head on Saturday after a couple was mugged and the 'suspect' was in possession of their goods. Another one escaped......

At least one will be out of circulation for a while.
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Unread post by arks » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:26 pm

Lumi wrote:Myself and my partner are visiting Cape Town for four nights in August. We are both keen (nature) photographers and are planning to visit Table Mountain, Cape Point, Boulder's Beach and West Coast NP. Because we have to carry camera gear with us, we'd really like to get some tips about safety issues.

Hi Lumi and Welcome!

I had visited all those places as a solo female with camera gear and never had any problems. However, since I'm alone, I don't wander too far from my car, but as there are two of you, in most cases you should be just fine. I would just be normally aware of your surroundings in the parks. The mugging problems seem to be mainly around hiking trails on Table Mountain and Lion's Head, as well as the trails up the mountain from Kirstenbosch.

I've not heard of problems at Cape Point, Boulders (go to the southern entrance where there is a family swimming beach, much more fun than the northern entrance where all the big tour coaches go!) or WCNP. These are all places where you can get out and explore on foot, as there are no large predators. Have a great trip!
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This I have said before: Why is there almost never a date on these news?


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