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Unread post by arks » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:27 pm

Looks like a Burchell's coucal to me, Nyala.
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Unread post by Nyala » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:35 pm

Coucal? Yes, it could be that. I have just looked in my Sasol Bird Book.
Thanks Arks, and I thought it was a raptor! Well, I think I should just scrap that folder on my pc with the "don't know" birds. Next year in KNP I'll be concentrating more on taking notes as well as better profile and head shots.


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Unread post by JoelR » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:17 pm

Nyala wrote:Coucal? Yes, it could be that. I have just looked in my Sasol Bird Book.
Thanks Arks, and I thought it was a raptor! Well, I think I should just scrap that folder on my pc with the "don't know" birds. Next year in KNP I'll be concentrating more on taking notes as well as better profile and head shots.

Hey Nyala, you're not THAT far off! Burchell's Coucal has small mammals and birds in its diet, along with reptiles, insects and eggs. It's only not a raptor because it doesn't seize prey with its feet, is my understanding. :wink:

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In general, any bird of prey, including owls. The raptors are sometimes restricted to eagles, falcons, hawks, and vultures (birds of the order Falconiformes), all diurnal predators that "seize and carry off" (Latin raptare) their prey.

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Unread post by LadyRaven » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:39 pm

Burchell's?

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Unread post by Candy's Style » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:33 am

I think you spot on LadyRaven, the barred flank and buffy white barred uppertail is present :thumbs_up:
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Unread post by Batmad » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:05 pm

And these?

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Re: Senegal Coucal

Unread post by Tionet » Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:45 am

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Now I am confused. I was under the impression that it is a Burchell's Coucal. Is there any difference between the Senegal and the Burchell's Coucal?

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Unread post by JenB » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:12 am

Hi Tionet,
When and where did you see this bird? :wink:
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Unread post by Tionet » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:04 am

Thank you Jen for moving the post. :D

We spotted him/her in December 2008 on the H4-2 on the way to Lower Sabie. It was raining that day and this bird did not seem very happy about it.

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Re: Senegal Coucal

Unread post by Moegaai » Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:47 am

Tionet wrote:Image

Now I am confused. I was under the impression that it is a Burchell's Coucal. Is there any difference between the Senegal and the Burchell's Coucal?


Hi Tionet, I don't think anyone ever responded to this question of yours...

The Senegal and Burchell's are VERY similar, and unfortunately from this pic it is not really possible to tell which one it is. Burchell's has a barred rump, whereas Senegal has a plain black rump. Unfortunately this was seemingly a shy individual who wanted to keep its rump to itself!!!

Based on the location (Lower Sabie region) I think you can based on distributions safely say that it is Burchell's Coucal, as Senegal is found in the far north of the park. But distributions also change!!!

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Re: Senegal Coucal

Unread post by deefstes » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:22 am

Moegaai wrote:
Tionet wrote:Image

Now I am confused. I was under the impression that it is a Burchell's Coucal. Is there any difference between the Senegal and the Burchell's Coucal?


Hi Tionet, I don't think anyone ever responded to this question of yours...

The Senegal and Burchell's are VERY similar, and unfortunately from this pic it is not really possible to tell which one it is. Burchell's has a barred rump, whereas Senegal has a plain black rump. Unfortunately this was seemingly a shy individual who wanted to keep its rump to itself!!!

Based on the location (Lower Sabie region) I think you can based on distributions safely say that it is Burchell's Coucal, as Senegal is found in the far north of the park. But distributions also change!!!

Moegaai is quite right in ID'ing this one as a Burchell's Coucal. Just thought I'd add one or two things.

I can't remember exactly where (I think it was Biyamithi) and I can't remember exactly when but it was within the last year or so, someone posted a Senegal Coucal pic on these forums that had us scratching our heads. Most of us, including me, was quick to ID it as Burchell's Coucal based purely on distribution, even though no barring was visible. Tertius Gouws eventually put us in our place by confirming that it was indeed a Senegal Coucal, well out of range.

The other thing I wanted to add is that I suspect, and I'm not 100% sure of this, that the barring visible on the secondaries that can be seen on this bird is probably sufficient to ID it as Burchell's Coucal. My understanding is that Senegal Coucal is unbarred not only on the rump, tail feather base and flanks but also on the wings in contrast with Burchell's which shows barring on all these areas.
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Re: Senegal Coucal

Unread post by Moegaai » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:26 am

deefstes wrote:Moegaai is quite right in ID'ing this one as a Burchell's Coucal. Just thought I'd add one or two things.

Phew... Thank goodness!!! :twisted:

deefstes wrote:I can't remember exactly where (I think it was Biyamithi) and I can't remember exactly when but it was within the last year or so, someone posted a Senegal Coucal pic on these forums that had us scratching our heads. Most of us, including me, was quick to ID it as Burchell's Coucal based purely on distribution, even though no barring was visible. Tertius Gouws eventually put us in our place by confirming that it was indeed a Senegal Coucal, well out of range.

The other thing I wanted to add is that I suspect, and I'm not 100% sure of this, that the barring visible on the secondaries that can be seen on this bird is probably sufficient to ID it as Burchell's Coucal. My understanding is that Senegal Coucal is unbarred not only on the rump, tail feather base and flanks but also on the wings in contrast with Burchell's which shows barring on all these areas.

VERY interesting, thanks Deefstes!

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Burchell's Coucal claiming Chameleon as lunch

Unread post by Morkel777 » Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:37 pm

Hi everyone!

I recorded this incident recently in Kruger (July) and was wondering if anyone had ever seen anything like this??? The Burchell's Coucal was struggling wildly to pry the chameleon loose from its foot- and tailholds on the nearby branches. The chameleon wasn't giving up easily and the coucal seemed to give up (don't know if it came back) after trying for more than 20 minutes to wrest the chameleon loose.

Here are some pics:
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Would love some feedback from all the serious birders on the forum!!
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Re: Burchell's Coucal claiming Chameleon as lunch

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:07 pm

ME! But I am not a serious birder, just an enthusiastic amateur.

My dad & I were at his now favourite place in Kruger in June 2005, the Mantambeni hide. We heard a hissing sound and then looked down the front of the hide, and there was this BC uncovering a chameleon under the foliage. It took about 45 minutes to get to it and peck it to death then eat it.

Sorry, some of my dad's pics are not great.

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Re: Burchell's Coucal claiming Chameleon as lunch

Unread post by Morkel777 » Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:24 pm

seems like I'm not alone! thanks for sharing Bush Baptist!!
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