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Re: Upgrade time Bye Bye Canon 450D

Unread post by saraf » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:46 am

An interesting perspective on older cameras here
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Re: Upgrade time Bye Bye Canon 450D

Unread post by Riaanf31 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:46 pm

So I have done my testing. The 7D is a very good camera, but the Compact Flash does put me off. I have SD cards currently and having to get Compact flash cards increases the price.

I tested the 60D as well and I'm inclined to play the waiting game for now whilst the price of the 60D reduced a little. The added benefit will be that no memory cards are necessary as I have more than enough SD Cards to hand.

Until then I''ll be aiming and framing with by trusted 450D.
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Re: Upgrade time Bye Bye Canon 450D

Unread post by tedredrum » Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:43 am

Riannf31,

As a 7D user I do not think you would regret the purchase. I have upgraded several times over the past years. I started with the 20D, then upgraded to the 30D and on to the 40D. About two years ago I bought a 7D and LOVE it. I thought about the 5D for a full frame, but the fps rate was so much slower. I ultimately bought a second 7D body to avoid changing lenses repeatedly. Prior to my last trip I purchased the 100-400mm lens and it performed superbly on the 7D body.

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Re: Upgrade time Bye Bye Canon 450D

Unread post by moobox » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:19 am

Sorry to hijack but there is something that I need an opinion on please. As I said above, I am just about to pull the trigger on a Canon EOS 70D. At one time I was thinking that full-frame (EOS 6D) would be the best option but from what I read, it's speciality is not wildlife or nature photography. And also, it is quite a bit more expensive.

But anyway, now I am looking at lenses for the 79D and what I see a lot is that a whole bunch of lenses (Canon and Sigma) specify that they are designed specifically for full-frame EOS cameras. But they are compatible with the non full-frame models. So, what is the trade-off here? Do I get a picture severely underexposed or cropped or what?

Also, waht aperture should I try and go for? I do understand that the lower the number specified, the more light that lens is capable of gathering. But in practical terms, at what point does this become an issue?

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Re: Upgrade time Bye Bye Canon 450D

Unread post by MxM » Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:55 am

Hi moobox

There is an enormous amount to consider here. Perhaps start by reading the gear discussion for photography on page 2 in my TR for my upcoming KTP trip. http://www.sanparks.org/forums/viewtopic.php?style=2&f=27&t=74478&start=15

I have the 6D. It is superb. It is light and has amazing picture quality. I use it for portraits, in my studio and landscapes. Also, in low light it is really handy as you can push the ISO up 4 stops higher than my 1D4.

The question of what body depends greatly on your choice of subjects. if you like small birds, then you really should go with a crop sensor, like the 70D (gives all lenses 1.6 times more focal length without increasing the minimum f you can use). Also, the AF on the 70D is amazing whereas it is a little slow on the 6D making bif more of a challenge. Also, fps is vital for all wildlife, but even more so for bif.

In terms of lenses, the reasoning you have been given is not right. An EF lens is rated as a full frame lens as it can actually be used on FF whereas EFS can only be used on crop bodies. In terms of stops and exposure etc, no, a specific EF lens on crop vs FF is not relevant, that is down to the camera settings.

Once you have decided what your subjects are, I can advise on lenses, this is big money.

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Re: Upgrade time Bye Bye Canon 450D

Unread post by moobox » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:44 pm

Thanks John. Yip I remember seeing your thread but I couldnt find it. See, I am not a photographer. But I want a decent camera with which I can do as much as possible. Seeing some reviews of the 70D, they seem to think this is quite a darned revolution - why? I dont know but seems like it will fit into my requirement quite nicely. I was thinking of getting a 650D but then thought maybe spend a little extra and go for the 70D with the 18-135 STM lens. And then buy a Tamron or Sigma zoom. And maybe get a tele converter as well.

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Re: Upgrade time Bye Bye Canon 450D

Unread post by MxM » Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:02 pm

Hi again moobox

If you are looking for an allrounder at a decent price, I would go 70D. If budget is a little tight, perhaps a 60D (have this and find it very underrated as I really enjoyed it - now my SO's weapon of choice as it is fast and light with sufficient function for the avid but not pro photographer). Until you are serious, I would not fork out for full frame.

In terms of lenses, please do me a big favour, many of my avid friends fell into the trap of regularly upgrading their kit. Rather sit and think what you want and then live without it until you have saved enough, no matter how much enough is. Buying a lens you don't really want but feel it is the best you can afford now is silly as a year later you want to upgrade but now have too much money tied in a lens you don't like anymore (that said, I bought a secondhand 500 f4 mki when I really want a 600 f4 mkii, but lets face it, some dreams are more than a year or 2 away). Also, the better the lens, the better the secondhand value.

Please post what your normal subject/style is and I can advise on some lenses (perhaps also give a general price guideline). I have used a number of the past few years and have helped from some budgetless to penniless friends make choices on fit for purpose kits.

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Re: Upgrade time Bye Bye Canon 450D

Unread post by Riaanf31 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:04 pm

Moobox,

I think MxM is spot on with his lens advise. When I first purchased my old 450D I purchased a cheap Tamron 70-300mm lens for about £100 in 2008. I then did a lot of research and also testing. Go to camera shops and speak to the guys behind the counter. Read up about lenses. But be sure that the expensive lens you buy is one you'll want for a long time and not as an in between step to the actual one you want. Also see if you can rent or borrow a lens before you buy one.

To this point I acquired a Canon 100-400mm. It's a lens I'll use for a long time.But it took me some time to decide. IT is a lit that fits my uses. Make a choice that fits your purpose.

I found www.dpreview.com very useful as far as reviews go.
Here is a link for rentals of you fancy the option. http://www.odprentals.co.za/?page_id=58 Rather spend R200 for a days rental and then know you want the lens or not,than spend way more and then realise it;s not the lens for you.

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