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Re: Transfrontier Parks

Unread postby octo » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:50 pm

Hi Kayvz - You can contact the Park on pnlimpopo@gmail.com and they can answer any of your questions - they will send you a Park Fact sheet with information on the rates, roads, camps, border procedures etc - they can also send you a GPS track as none of the roads are signposted, being a 4x4 route.

Knowing the Park well here are some suggestions:
- The Park is still in its development phase so wildlife sightings are limited - however there are some attractive community villages that one passes through and you get to explore some scenic locations and views all to yourself - if you go with this understanding and enjoy the quiete of the bush you will thoroughly enjoy

- Make sure you make a pass by Shingwedzi Cliffs viewpoint and Ngwenya Pools (nice place to picnic)

- Make sure you overnight at least 1 night at Mbona Kaya which overlooks (20m high cliff camp site) a permanent pool in the Shingwedzi. There is an 8km loop road as well from this campsite

- The northern sandveld pan 4x4 camp site could also be a nice place to stay, there has been some good animal sightings in the area which has been picked up by the carnivore research project in the Park (www.wildedens.org)

Enjoy - and looking forward to the possibility of a trip report !

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Re: Great Limpopo Transfrontier Park

Unread postby Foxy » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:38 pm

Just returned from a 5 night stay on the Mozambique side.

Well I doubt I will ever return there again - the only high light of the trip was the Shingwedzi cliffs and Ngwenya pools. The road (4x4) track obviously not maintained in along time and rather overgrown with Mopane shrubs. At times we had to hunt for the tracks ever though we had 2 GPS's. we left the camp site at 09h30 and arrived after 60kms at 19h00 at the next camp site - we had just over an hour at the cliffs.
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The camping sites - one had ablutions but the Ellie's had paid the camp site a visit and the hot water system was damaged also the reed structure around the ablutions was damaged. It was obvious that this had not happened recently - no effort had been made to repair the ablution block. Another camp site - the Eco toilet had been removed and structure burnt down. No water available. Was about 10 km from the main 4 x 4 track. Yet another campsite - beautiful view over the Shingwedzi river, nice and shady, but the structure for the shower had been washed away and. No effort to rebuild it, at least there was an Eco toilet there. ( 2 nights there). The Giriyonda camp site was ok - had an Eco toilet and a structure for a shower but no running water.

The main 4x4 track northwards badly needs to have the vegetation cut back - our vehicles were horribly scratched.

Animal sightings were extremely limited.

A lot of work needs to be done before the Moz side can be promoted.

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Re: Great Limpopo Transfrontier Park

Unread postby johanrebel » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:09 pm

Foxy wrote:Animal sightings were extremely limited.
Are you surprised?

If SANParks and the SANDF, despite their best efforts, can't keep Mozambican (rhino) poachers out of South Africa, what do you think is going on across the border?

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Giriyondo Border Post

Unread postby Bush Babies » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:30 am

Hi Everyone, We are traveling through to Xai-Xai in December using the Giriyondo Border Post. We will be staying at Letaba before we go through this border (Yay)...Im just wondering if anybody has used this border before and what it is like? Is it busy...What are the officials like etc

Not sure if this question has been asked but would really appreciate some info from those that have been there before :info:

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Re: Giriyondo Border Post

Unread postby threedogs » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:40 am

I have been through Giriyondo in 2011- it was September. Not busy at all, officials ok, passport for four people took 20 minutes to have official stamps etc put in on Moz side. Passports were taken away to a back room out of our sight which I did not like. :? Other than that no problems. Had rocks thrown at our car by kids in villages still in the park.
Endless speed bumps in the park but road good in the dry. The track through the village would be a bit yuk in the wet.
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Re: Giriyondo Border Post

Unread postby Elsa » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:03 pm

Hi Bush Babies, warm welcome to the forum! :clap:

Have a look Here as well.
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Re: Giriyondo Border Post

Unread postby Foxy » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:25 pm

We have just used the border, must be early - try not to go over a weekend, on the Moz side they rather slow :roll: .
Fortunately the bulk of the traffic had gone through when we arrived at about 10a.m. but still took about an hour.
We had no problem taking meat through - they didn't even ask about it - but they did ask about wine and beer and also wanted to see a grocery list - we had one - the others didn't, but they didn't have much a problem. Once the Moz customs official had check the vehicle, barely glanced at the grocery list he left and next we had a guy with rifle who wanted to see all the docs again - this was the Moz police, so the same procedure but beware they do try and bribe you, just ignore comment, act dumb and pull out more documents.
(You should have original docs and copies of vehicle registration, bank letter re vehicle etc).
Coming back from Moz, the police asked if we had fish which we didn't.
No other issues.
The customs official seems to multi task (short staffed) - do office work before going out to check your vehicle - this happened with all the vehicles in our party, so is time consuming.

Good luck and enjoy...........

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Re: Giriyondo border post

Unread postby Stephens.L » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:53 pm

John T

Please note that the boarder post is open.
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Re: Giriyondo border post

Unread postby John T » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:54 pm

Thank you

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Re: Great Limpopo Transfrontier Park

Unread postby PetrusK » Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:48 pm

Hi, we will also be traveling to the Mozambique coast via Giryondo border.
I am concerned about the road conditions as we will not be traveling in convoy and also towing a Venter trailer ( not an off road trailer). Please advise if you have travelled this route recently.

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Re: Great Limpopo Transfrontier Park

Unread postby Donny » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:05 pm

Hi PetrusK

I do know u requested info on the route of anyone having travelled it recently , however I can fill u in on my experience earlier this year.

I was in Moz in Jan this year and we had decided to enter RSA via Limpopo Park and spend a night at Albufeira camp just pass the Massingir dam and then on to Satara.

We were travelling just at the beginning of Jan a week before the flooding that hit Moz. What I do know is the the road from Xai Xai to Massingir esp. the Chokwe stretch is really pothole riddled for about 15kms. It will take a fair while to negotiate but it can be done without too many difficulties. After Chokwe the road to the park is good and u shouldn't have any problems.Just keep any eye out for cattle, goats etc.

You will enjoy your trip though.

Maybe others who've been there recently can provide more accurate info.
Need to get there soon !!!

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Giriyondo Border crossing

Unread postby tedredrum » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:53 am

Hello fellow forumites:

I will be spending 9 nights in KNP in early May. I have always wanted to travel into the Mozambique side of the park, but so far have not had the opportunity. I was hoping that this might be my chance since I will be traveling alone.

Satara is the furthest north that I will be staying. Does anyone know if it is possible to drive from Satara to Giriyondo and back in a day? How smooth is the crossing at Giriyondo and is it even worth doing?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

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Re: Giriyondo Border crossing

Unread postby threedogs » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:28 am

Not sure about the distance as we left from Mopani which is, of course, much closer. The crossing was uneventful if rather slow.
On the Moz side the first thing you will notice is the vegetation and how different it is to the KNP side. The lack of large herbivores (mainly elephants) means there is much more standing large trees and it is quite attractive. However the number of animals we saw we could count on one hand (and we traversed right across the park) and they were extremely skittish.

The road to the border was rather corrugated and cars tend to speed on it. (Including staff who we observed going at a rate of knots).
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Re: Giriyondo Border crossing

Unread postby Clairey » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:18 am

Hi Daron

We did the crossing in December last year, we stayed 1 night in Letaba and then used the border to drive to Xai Xai. We use the border again on the way back and stayed on in the park.
We saw 1 impala on the way through and nothing on the way back. There are villages in the Mozambique side of the park so we saw a lot of locals milling about and some kids asking for money on the side of the dirt roads.

If memory serves me correctly it was about R400 to enter the park for 1 vehicle and 2 people. The border crossing was very smooth and quick other than some of the military guys checking out the contents of our car and then asking for a cold drink ( not sure if they were aiming for a bribe :hmz: but we made sure we always had a couple of cold cokes in the car so we had no issues) In my opinion you are better off spending time in the Kruger park.

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Re: Giriyondo Border crossing

Unread postby tedredrum » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:35 am

Thanks Claire and three dogs. I really was just hoping to do the crossing to get the Mozambique stamp in the passport and add it to the list of places entered. Still trying to decide how feasible it is
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