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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Johan van Rensburg » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:09 am

African pipit
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by arks » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:16 pm

Thanks, JvR, I should have thought of that :wall:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:36 pm

Arks, the bill shape of pipits and larks are very different. Your bird shows a pointy narrow bill immediately ruling out the lark family.

Larks have a far more robust bill.

Here are some photos of a Fawn-coloured Lark for comparison.

http://www.laine-dirk.co.za/photos/497/497.html
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by arks » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:06 pm

Thanks for that tip, WTM. :thumbs_up: I should have realised that by now, but methinks I'm a slow learner ... and I sometimes have a hard time seeing the obvious! :roll: :wink:
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by adrianp » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:24 am

I'd have to say you were correct the first time round, with African Pipit. They can be a bit variable depending on where in SA they come from, the time of moult and the adult vs juvenile. I think this is a juvenile. Bushveld pipit is a lot smaller and tends to spend more time in the trees than on the ground.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by naomi c » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:58 pm

I am clueless when it comes to LBJ's! Pic taken at Mooiplaas waterhole end of December 2012.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by adrianp » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:26 pm

Hi Naomi

This bird looks like a young Afican pipit.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:07 am

Agree with African Pipit at Mooiplaas.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by arks » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:30 am

A few more that I'm not quite sure about :hmz: all seen along Darling Hills Road in late December 2012.

2. I first thought that this was an African pipit, but now I'm wondering whether it may rather be a longbilled pipit?
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Johan van Rensburg » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:51 pm

With arks's bird I have to hit the books... no time for that now, sorry.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by arks » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:06 pm

Johan van Rensburg wrote:With arks's bird I have to hit the books... no time for that now, sorry.

Waiting patiently! :whistle: :wink: :D
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Johan van Rensburg » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:29 am

arks wrote:Waiting patiently! :whistle: :wink: :D


Yarwell... these things take time...

The second bird is ALSO a juvenile bird which makes the ID doubly difficult: usually the pink tinge to the bill would clinch the ID as long-billed, but in juv African, the bill also shows some pink. Cryptically the hind claw is hidden... that would give away the ID in a flash! I need more time... Or another picture!
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by arks » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:43 pm

Thanks so much, Johan! I'll see if I've another pic of the pipit that shows the hind claw ....
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by arks » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:10 pm

Does this help at all? And to help me in future, what would be the difference between the hind claws?

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Johan van Rensburg » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:21 pm

African pipit you have here. It's. Hind claw is long and the LBP's is short
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