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Re: advice on road fromNossob to Bitterpan

Unread post by Son godin » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:25 pm

Debbyhug,

If you cannot make it to the top a dune you can reverse and have a second go. Close to camp one reach a deep sandy intersection were you need to turn right and not stop to give it a thought. If you get stuck here it will be difficult to get out by just reversing.

Some call it Willem se draai named after the camp attendant at Bitterpan. Make sure Nossob radio through to Bitterpan so that he knows you are on your way and when to expect you to arrive just incase you get stuck along the way.

Most drivers find it easy but many got stuck as well. Hope you journey is safe. When traveling the route I made used of my cellphones Garmin maps but lost the route about 20 km before Bitterpan. If you can get Tracks4africa maps it will help to make quick decision when the road suddenly split. The road is straight forward but I would say a GPS will just give you that peace of mind that you are on the right track.
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Re: advice on road fromNossob to Bitterpan

Unread post by Lonehill_Birders » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:51 am

We spent some time at Bitterpan in May this year, we have a Honda CRV. Apart from the one steep dune on the exit road, where one, as advised by Kalahari Guru, and others - should keep momentum - we didn't have any problems. At this steep dune some people had got stuck before, but by keeping our momentum we got through without any hassles. The only problem was the moment we crested the dune, a HUGE male lion was lying right next to the road, and for a moment the two of us eye-balled each other (my window was open), lion jumped up, and I screeched like a parrot :shock: . We managed to stop and take 2 photo's, before the lion stomped away in a huff. :lol:
We hired a Satellite phone, just in case we got stuck or had problems, we got a good deal from somebody in Johannesburg, but, thankfully it wasn't needed. The hi-lift jack and sand mats came home unused.
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Re: Road Conditions

Unread post by Blackie » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:47 pm

Herman,

The main roads leading to the 3 main camps (i.e. From TR to Nossob and up to Unions End; TR to Mata Mata & the 2 "dune roads (taking you across from the Auob to the Nossob river beds, upper dune road and lower dune road), are not subject to permits.

You require permits for all the 4x4 trails - AFAIK only the Leeudril 4x4 is "self-driven", the rest is guided trails.

Roads leading to the other camps (e.g. Kielie Krankie, Urikanuus, Kalahari Tented Camp, Bitterpan etc), are only open to residents (i.e. only if you have a booking may you travel that road).

Hope this helps.

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Re: Kgalagadi roads

Unread post by Malealea » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:45 pm

This Post refer to the Terios.

The Daihatsu terios is a very good 4X4. Because of the low weight, short Wheelbase and reduction and Diff-Lock, makes it acutally to very good car. I Have read certain Test and all the Tester were positiv surprised about the ability in Sand, Mud, Snow and On Roads. even On-Roads the performance of the car was great. I really like to Post the Source, but indeed they are in German. Anyway I guess the Terios is one of the most underestimated Cars.

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Condition of roads in Kgalagadi.

Unread post by GinaMcAdam » Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:52 am

We are visiting Kgalagadi for the first time - 27/9/2013 to 3/10/2013. We have got a Fortuner and want to take our Eagle Fibreglass Trailer. Will the trailer handle the road conditions? We are staying at Twee Rivieren, Nossob & Kalahari Tented Camp.
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road information

Unread post by AndrewJPearson » Mon May 26, 2014 10:33 am

Hi

I will be visiting the KTP in August this year. I'm driving an SUV, Hyundai Tuscon. its got reasonable clearance and it has 4x4 (but its not low range or the off road type!).

I'm trying to find out if it will be suitable for me to drive the road from the Nossob River at Kij Kij, accrooss to the Auob. I think its called the lower dune road?

Thanks!

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Re: road information

Unread post by lion queen » Mon May 26, 2014 11:00 am

Hi Andrew and a warm welcome to the forum........... :gflower:

The lower and upper dune roads are gravel roads, no need for a 4x4.

This is how the dune roads look like.

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Re: road information

Unread post by AndrewJPearson » Tue May 27, 2014 9:26 am

Thanks Lion Queen

It looks in pretty good condition- better than the corrugated river roads.
Would that be the best route to take from Rooiputs to KTC ?

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Re: road information

Unread post by lion queen » Tue May 27, 2014 9:35 am

Hi Andrew,

Not really a better or worse road in KTP....... :wink:

I like the lower dune road and sometimes the stretch from Melkvlei to Dikbaardskolk can be very quiet. BUT then we have had great sightings on that stretch!!

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Re: road information

Unread post by alirio1 » Wed May 28, 2014 4:35 pm

I too have concerns about the suitability of different types of vehicle for travelling around Kgalagadi.I will be visiting late August from the UK with my family,arriving in J'burg where I will pick up the rental car.The problem,as has been noted elsewhere,is that the major consolidators don't differentiate between 4x4 and SUV(many of which are 2wd),they are listed as one category in themselves,and as I'm sure most people are aware,these companies all state that they are unable to guarantee a specific model to the customer. Of the models used as illustrations on their websites, I have discounted the Kia Sportage as being too small,the most economical would be the X-Trail,assuming the 2wd would handle the roads in KTP,and the others on offer seem to be Nissan Qashqai,Hyundai IX35 (looks lightweight even to my totally untrained eye!),and Toyota Fortuner (by some distance the most expensive option).I need to make the right decision as 3 weeks travelling around South Africa and Namibia using inadequate transport is not something to look forward to!! We will be staying in each of the 3 main camps in KTP,so I guess what I really need to know is would X-Trail handle the roads ok? Any advice/insight would be greatly appreciated!
And,just to mention,we'll be entering at the Mata Mata post,leaving via TR.
Thanks!!!

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Re: road information

Unread post by Hugh » Wed May 28, 2014 4:46 pm

Hello there
We Have a Qashqai and we have been to KTP and it was perfect Very comfy lots of room ,there were two of us Its only a 2x4 but has high clearance. we have also taken this same car to Tankwa and it managed some very scary mountain passes with ease . I am sure its a lot cheaper than the Fortuna and more comfy than the X-trail
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Re: road information

Unread post by Afriphile » Thu May 29, 2014 9:33 am

Hi,alirio1.
We were in KTP this Easter and I can agree with the advice posted already.
We were 4 adults from UK and because of distance travlelled and time in vehicle we decided to rent a Fotuner from a specialist 4x4 company.
They could guarantee the model provided,and although we never needed 4x4,it was a super car, and really glad we hired it.
Like you , we have booked cars from the consolidators,at JNB,and rarely get the same make/model as booked.
This summer we are returning to Kruger,and have booked a Fortuner (4x2) from consolidator so will see what we get!!!
Enjoy KTP and if you get the chance drop in at Mokala NP on the journey.
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Re: Kgalagadi roads

Unread post by kimanjome » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:38 pm

Hey, a quick update for all of those who have questions about the internal roads. We returned from the park after a stay in October / November 2014. It was an unforgettable experience. I say this both in seriousness and with humor, because you never know what will happen from day to day, hour to hour. We were driving a small SUV a Hyundai X I 35 and it handled the terrain well. Except--and this is a major EXCEPT-- there were two days in which there were very bad sandstorms with white out conditions. We were not caught in the sandstorms; however we foolishly went driving after the sandstorms. This was on the main road between the turnoff for Kieliekrankie and just north of Urikaruus. Because the roads in this area are at times lower than the dry riverbed what happens is during the sandstorm the sand is blown into the air over the curb and into the road. It is like driving in fine, powdery snow. The vehicles get stuck. We were fortunate that we could push our vehicle out of the sand in which we were stuck; however, there were larger 4x4 and SUV which had fishtailed into the banks on the side of the road, one had spun almost a 180 degrees. So, for the most part the roads are good except in those strange weather conditions.

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Re: Kgalagadi roads

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:23 pm

The Mata Mata/2R road was corrugated last month, but if you let your tyres down to 1.5 bars as recommended your false teeth are ok!
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Re: Kgalagadi roads

Unread post by lion queen » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:35 am

We were at Urikarus this past weekend and roads still corrugated, but not the worst that I've seen it......... :dance: :dance: :dance:

Nossob side they closed a small part of the road just south of Kij Kij due to some heavy rains.
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