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Re: Spotlight to recommend??

Unread post by wheckroodt » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:07 am

I am a night tour guide at the Pretoria Zoo and use a Coleman Led spotlight(about R800 at makro) with a Lumeno potable 12v lead crystal battery(gate motor battery)
The led is very bright 555 Lumens and shines a good distance, being led uses very little power.

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USE OF FLOOD / SPOTLIGHTS

Unread post by DSouter » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:36 am

I was watching the 4x4 show on tv here and Andrew St.Pierre White the presenter was discussing spot / floodlights. He showed the LED Lensar X series torch which makes even car headlights look dim and has a range of over 500mtrs.

My comment is that surely if you were to use a torch this powerful for night spotting in the park then you could do some serious damage to an animals eyes, especially the owls.

Are there any regulations governing the use of torches in the park beyond using common sense? :hmz:

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Re: USE OF FLOOD / SPOTLIGHTS

Unread post by Leaping Lizards » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:55 am

Good morning DSouter.

I feel the same way and I am sure that they do some sort of damage.

At most outdoor stores, they sell the LED lamps/spots with the red game spotting filter. In some stores you can even get a red filter on its own to attach to your lamp. I hope people with these LED lamps are aware enough to take measures to protect the animals’ eyes.
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Re: USE OF FLOOD / SPOTLIGHTS

Unread post by TheMiggies » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:48 am

Apparently using a red filter over a normal torch still allows you to see the animals, but doesn't harm their eyes as much. However, one hopes that common sense prevails... :?

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Re: USE OF FLOOD / SPOTLIGHTS

Unread post by Oryx » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:15 am

Whenever and where-ever spotlights are used in parks, such as on night-drives, etc, red filters should be compulsory.

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Re: USE OF FLOOD / SPOTLIGHTS

Unread post by johanrebel » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:11 pm

One wonders why the shops in the rest camps sell 10m candle power spotlights. Yeah, that's ten million candle power!

As for red filters, that's a commercial non-starter. A lot of people, especially the elderly, have great trouble seeing anything in red light, and it makes (video)photography nigh on impossible. Private game lodges that have tried red filters abandoned them real quick for these reasons.

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Re: USE OF FLOOD / SPOTLIGHTS

Unread post by okie » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:47 pm

DSouter wrote:My comment is that surely if you were to use a torch this powerful for night spotting in the park then you could do some serious damage to an animals eyes, especially the owls.




Certainly . And remember , owls fly amongst trees , dodging branches , etc . It can impair his vison to the extent that he cannot see such branches , and colliding with it , could cause a broken wing , and a certain dead owl .
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Re: USE OF FLOOD / SPOTLIGHTS

Unread post by kallis1786 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:24 am

Hi everyone

I was just thinking of something similar but my question is completly different come to think of it.

Sometimes when we enter gates as soon as they open and this especially happens during Winter. It happens to be Dark on the roads and therefore would using vehicle headlamps be permissible. What about animals on the road which is often the case at the time. Does it affect them. Just curious

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Re: USE OF FLOOD / SPOTLIGHTS

Unread post by okie » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:26 am

Kallis , quite often , that is how a live animal becomes road-kill :evil:
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Re: USE OF FLOOD / SPOTLIGHTS

Unread post by Rooies » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:50 am

We have touched the subject of using spot lights in camps, but I can't find it.
I have some serious problems with the use of spot lights in camp especially at the fences.
Parents think it is OK to give spots to the children who shine the lights up and down the fence and even at people sitting silently at the fence and thereby spoiling the atmosphere.
It sometimes resembles a scene from the second world war during the Blitzkrieg over London.
Where I normally go, the use of spot lights inside the camp area is strictly forbidden and such an offense carries a heavy penalty.
People should be considerate when using the lights.
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Re: USE OF FLOOD / SPOTLIGHTS

Unread post by okie » Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:42 pm

When we were in Satara in October, the couple in the bungalow adjacent to us used a spot and went chasing after Scops owls .
Every now and then the guy would shout, "here he is , come and have a look".
I eventually went to him, asked him could I look at his wonderful powerful light .
When he handed it to me, I shone it directly into his eyes and asked him how he liked it and did he realise that by shining it in the scop's eyes, it could mean the death of the most photographed owl in the world :evil: .
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Re: USE OF FLOOD / SPOTLIGHTS

Unread post by Elsa » Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:55 pm

OMW! what did he have to say to that Okie? :whistle:

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Re: USE OF FLOOD / SPOTLIGHTS

Unread post by okie » Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:44 pm

He thanked me :)
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Re: USE OF FLOOD / SPOTLIGHTS

Unread post by kallis1786 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:25 pm

Hi Elsa and Okie.

I totally agree that vehicle headlamps are necessary but does it actually affect the animal's eyes those headlamps.

We own a Nissan X Trail

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As you can see the 2 Lights I marked, Instead of turning on the Entire headlamps, My dad only turns on those 2 lights as it provides enough light to stop if there is an animal on the road but is not powerful enough as the main headlamp, but since my dad is the one that always drives, I will be going with a friend next year June without my Dad, so I was just curious,

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Re: USE OF FLOOD / SPOTLIGHTS

Unread post by johanrebel » Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:01 pm

Oryx wrote:Johanrebel, yeah it`s interesting, isn`t it, the fact that a red filter is a commercial non-starter. It actually means that possible damage to an animal`s eyes or a disturbance is of secondary importance to sightings for the elderly and video phtography. Makes one think!!
Yeah, that's why I wrote commercial non-starter.

Years ago, the rest camp shops sold a book called Kruger Park, Questions & Answers. One of the questions was why night drives were not allowed. I do not have the book to hand, so cannot quote the answer (will look it up when I get home next year), but the reason given was that it would cause disturbance to the animals. Then, all of a sudden, SANParks started offering night drives from all rest camps. Now that would not have been for commercial reasons, would it now?

Leaving aside the commercial aspects, the whole issue is still quite complex, both the damage and disturbance aspects.

I spend a lot of time observing animals at night on foot, and have found that animals generally are not much disturbed by the light at all. Makes me wonder whether vehicle size/noise/proximity are not more of a disturbance than the light.

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