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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Maxwell » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:09 pm

I saw it but steered clear of it waiting for an expert.
Go on then. You are right on both counts (probably!)
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Unread post by adrianp » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:21 am

Did you consider male non-breeding/transitional red bishop.

The eye stripe seems to extend far back, and I get a hint of red comming through among the black streaks. I am a bit concerned that the tail may be too long for a bishop, that may be the angle. I wouldn't exclude, it especially if you saw the bird in the cape, where the bishops have an "inverted" breeding season compared to the summer rainfall parts.

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Unread post by Rookie » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:41 pm

I recently visited Intaka island in Cape Town and came across some bird that I would like and ID or confirmation on:

Would this be a female southern red bishop and a transitional male?

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I only have a very old Ian Sinclair's field guide with photos that are not great and a Sasol guide, so am a bit limited in identifying the different birds based on eye, beak or leg colour or juvenilles, so thanks for all your help.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Maxwell » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:40 pm

Blimey! You don't do it by halves do you?

Bishop. Transitional Red male.

Hard to reply as the photos are not visible in this window!
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Rookie » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:26 pm

Wow Maxwell, well that would be about 5 firsts for me (it is easy to get firsts when you are new to birding)! :big_eyes: :big_eyes: :lol: :lol:

Thanks so much for taking the trouble to ID these for me. :gflower:
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Unread post by Rookie » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:10 pm

I am convinced that the ones that I am going to ask for confirmation/ IDs on will not spark the debate that the CLC or YTLC has.

These were taken in Cape Town during the last week:

A Red Bishop
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Easy for you all I am sure.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by adrianp » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:28 pm

Hi Rookie

2 is correct, red bishop.

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Unread post by Rookie » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:31 pm

Thanks Adrianp, well I get to tick off some more then! This is fun! :dance: :dance:
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Unread post by Kaapsedraai » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:25 pm

Whilst visiting Itaka island in Cape Town, I saw this bird in the reeds eating the seeds. I initially thought it was a weaver of some sorts, but when downloading my photo's and consulting 3 bird books, the closest I got was 'lemon breasted canary' which you find in Mosambique and the north eastern part of SA. I will appreciate some help with the identification, that is if it is not a lemon-breasted canary.

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Unread post by Johan van Rensburg » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:06 am

Kaapsedraai wrote:Whilst visiting Itaka island in Cape Town, I saw this bird in the reeds eating the seeds. I initially thought it was a weaver of some sorts, but when downloading my photo's and consulting 3 bird books, the closest I got was 'lemon breasted canary' which you find in Mosambique and the north eastern part of SA. I will appreciate some help with the identification, that is if it is not a lemon-breasted canary.


Kaapsedraai, you must use a large slice of imagination to put this bird in a slot where it resembles anything in a birdguide as it is in transitional plumage. For now I leave you with that tip... just maybe you'll enjoy nailing the ID on your own steam with that tip... :wink: Your first impression was not too far off! :thumbs_up:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Kaapsedraai » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:27 pm

Thank you, Johan.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Malles » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:50 am

Johan van Rensburg wrote:Kaapsedraai, you must use a large slice of imagination to put this bird in a slot where it resembles anything in a birdguide as it is in transitional plumage. For now I leave you with that tip... just maybe you'll enjoy nailing the ID on your own steam with that tip... :wink: Your first impression was not too far off! :thumbs_up:

I abosulely love this answer, helping a lot but encouraging to learn more, like helping someone to fish rather than give him one fish that will only help for that one day, bravo!
I appreciate it is not suitable all the time.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by ross hawkins » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:29 pm

@ Kaapsedraai. You don't by any chance have anymore pics of this individual by any chance?

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by adrianp » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:15 pm

Hint...check out the local clergy :whistle:

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Kaapsedraai » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:10 pm

Ross, unfortunately not as the only ones are from the same position.
I have tried to get more from other sides, but as I was in a hide and my view angle limited and the fellow had a mind of his own.

adrianp, I will consult the reception desk as well, maybe they might know something.
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