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Re: Wide angle lens, which one?

Unread post by Scottm » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:38 pm

It would seem that my initial thoughts were correct and that, according to my brief research, any DX lens is rated at what it would be on a full-frame camera, IF it would work (which it wont) !!!! As an example, and according to the DPReview site, the ever-popular 18 - 200mm DX Nikon lens is in effect a 27 - 300mm lens on a DX camera with a crop factor of 1.5, and thus NOT an 18 - 200mm range, as may be expected. Thus this lens would have an even greater zoom reach on a camera with a crop factor of 1.6, but its wide-angle ability would be even further reduced. :huh:

have a look through the following review of the Nikon 18 - 200mm lens.

http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/nikon_18-200_3p5-5p6_vr_afs_n15/
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Re: Wide angle lens, which one?

Unread post by DuQues » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:16 pm

I checked M@rie's suggestion (Thanks!) and found this chart. Very handy, and I now have a new target I think, the Tokina 11-16 mm, f2/8.
That's a stop faster than the ones I was thinking of, at slightly lower pricing. 8)

Scott, lenses are always described for fullframe, you have to do the translation (times 1.3, 1.5, 1.6, you name it) yourself. The manufacturer doesn't know what body you are going to use...
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Re: Wide angle lens, which one?

Unread post by anne catherine » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:35 pm

Hi Duques ,

I have the canon 10-22 mm and it's a fantastic lens for indoors or most of landscapes pictures ..I have also a 50mm f :1.8 , nothing intermediate between the zoom and that lens .. Only the 18-200 tamron of my son i still use sometimes when i miss the focal .
What i noticed is sometimes i would want to have the 17-40mm ....also .
You have the new canon EF-S 15-85 mm IS now who seems to be a very good lens but not 10mm and not a L :)

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Problems with Canon EF 16-35/2,8 II USM

Unread post by Wild Dog Fan » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:06 am

Since two years or so I am using a Canon EF 16-35/2,8 II USM with my (analogue) Canon EOS 1V. The results were disapointing in terms of sharpness. :evil: :cry:

I sent camera and lens to an authorised workshop for calibration, but after the first test exposures, results are still not as expected with a lens of that class. The funny thing is, pictures taken in a distance of 1-2 meters are excellent. I have also the impression that the closer I am getting to the 16mm mark of the zoom lens the more "soft" and fuzzy the pictures are. :wall:

Is anybody out there who has similar experiences ?

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Re: Problems with Canon EF 16-35/2,8 II USM

Unread post by DuQues » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:41 am

That's odd, it's supposed to be one of Canon's best lenses.
Have you tried it on another body?

And... Are you using an UV-filter?
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Re: Problems with Canon EF 16-35/2,8 II USM

Unread post by Wild Dog Fan » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:16 pm

Thanks for quick response...no, I did not make a try with an other body up to now.
But that is not a bad idea of course. On the other hand, all other leses are working well with the camera.

And yes, I am using a skylight filter (B+W KR 1,5 1,1x MRC).

I will try to do some test pictures with/without filter today.

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Wide Angle Lens?

Unread post by firefinch » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:34 pm

Hi All,

I'm looking at getting a new wide angle lens for my canon 60d.

The one Im considering is the canon 10-22mm. My question is if I already have the 17-55mm F2.8, will the 10-22mm offer a big difference?

With the 1.6 crop factor on my 60d, this equates to a 27mm (17-55mm) vs 16mm (10-22m) at the shortest focal length.

I trying to decide if this can justify spedning R8k on the lens. I would like to use the 10-22mm for landscape photography.

thanks!

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Re: Wide Angle Lens?

Unread post by DuQues » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:43 pm

Do you plan on using a fullframe camera in the future?
The 10-22 is an EF-S lens, so will not fit a 1D for instance.

But the lens is great, super quality. If you go to www.wildlifephotography.nl (Madach's site) you'll find quite a few photos made with that lens.
However he did the lens away, and bought the 17-40 L, which I now also have.
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Re: Wide Angle Lens?

Unread post by EOS_User » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:57 pm

Hello firefinch;

The Canon 10-22 is outstanding optically... but a very close second, and far more economical ( :D ) is the Sigma 10-20. It's the WA that I use on my 40D, and I'm very happy with it for what it get's used for. If you can find a MkI - that's a better bet than the new MkII...

As for your question - does it make any real difference - Yes it does.

If you think about the Angle of View; at 10mm (16mm equivalent FoV) you're getting 97° whereas with the 17-55; at 17mm ( 27mm equivalent FoV) you're only getting 68°... So, a 42% greater angle-of-view.

Plus, you can get very creative with the 10-20/22 lenses...

The 17-40 is a superb lens also; but is not an alternate for the 10-20/22 for a crop-sensor body. If you want truly WA on a crop-sensor, then the 10-20/22 is the way ahead.

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Re: Wide Angle Lens?

Unread post by Morkel777 » Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:55 pm

I used the Canon 10-22mm USM on my 7D and it provided me with excellent results. True, the Sigma 10-20mm is great value and not much of a difference in image quality.

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Wide Angle lens for 7d

Unread post by Massimo » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:33 pm

Hey guys, I dont really have a wide angle lens and was wondering if any one here uses them? I have a canon 7d and 450D and i would like to hear what you use on this body for a wide angle lens.

Does anyone use the sigma 10-20 f3.5 lens ?? Would like to hear your thoughts on that lens.
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Re: Wide Angle lens for 7d

Unread post by EOS_User » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:35 am

Hi Massimo;

I had the Sigma 10-20 MkI for use on my 40D and loved it. Optics are very good and the lens is excellent value for money. The new MkII doesn't get as good a write up though; so if you're seriously looking at the Sigma, you'd be better off looking for a MkI if you can still find one...

As an example of how much the MkI is valued, I just sold my Sigma 10-20 on that well known auction site for more than I paid for it :dance: Sold it only coz I've upgraded to a 5DII and bought a 17-40 for wide-angle use. I'm still keeping my 40D though for long-reach; it's a superb piece of kit.

In all honesty, if the choice came down to the MkII Sigma or the Canon 10-22, I'd opt for the Canon today - even though it's a damned sight more expensive...

Look for a MkI - that would be my suggestion...

Good luck...

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Re: Wide Angle lens for 7d

Unread post by DuQues » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:28 pm

I have a 7D, but somehow it seems the long lens has been glued to it. We also have a 17-40 which works perfectly on it, but GP has fallen in love with it, and I fear for my life when I look at it.
The 17-40 (L, f/4) is a super lens. On the 7D it'll effectively be a 27-64 lens of course, but that makes it the perfect runaround lens. It is quite fast, AF is very fast, and the IQ is perfect, even in the corners.
I get the feeling that you don't use wide-angle a lot? Then I would go for this lens. (Which is obvious as I have it. ;) ) Landscapes are more than wide enough without the lines distorting too much. It'll do family meetings, weddings and the likes without a problem, but if you want to use the internal flash of the 7D you have a problem. The lens + hood is very wide, so it'll throw a shade. Outside that's no problem, just turn the camera 180 degrees, you won't see the shade in the light air. Inside you will need an external flash though.
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Re: Wide Angle lens for 7d

Unread post by anne catherine » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:50 pm

I have the 7D ,40 D bodies and the three same lenses you have ,with also the 300mmf:4.
I have also the canon 10-22mm and love it though sometimes i think i should have bought the 17-40mm.

The 10-22 is not the lens for pics from the car i found, and rather use my 70-200 mm for landscapes shots and the 10-22 in camps in parks .

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Re: Wide Angle lens for 7d

Unread post by DuQues » Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:34 pm

anne catherine wrote:The 10-22 is not the lens for pics from the car i found, (...)

You probably had the car in the photos too? It is a very wide lens which will get your feet into the photo too. ;)
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