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Online Cources and Online Auction Sites

Unread post by onewithnature » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:22 am

Can anyone comment on the online auction site, ziinga.com, where one can purchase cameras and other electronic equipment on-line. One has to first deposit a certain amount of money via credit card, whereafter that money is used as credits to bid. When the clock runs out, one gets the purchase at the lowest price.

Does anyone know if this is a safe site, and whether everything is above board? They do show happy winners having saved large amounts of money, but has anyone on this forum used them with success?
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Re: Ziinga.com?

Unread post by DuQues » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:28 am

They are scam artists if I do a quick search.
Best stay away from sites like that. If it sounds to good to be true, it usually is not good.
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Re: Ziinga.com?

Unread post by Scottm » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:45 pm

Most of these online auction sites have automated bidders that will out-bid you on an ongoing basis. While I am not aware of any that are legit and above board, keep in mind that they, like all businesses are out to make profits and cannot afford to sell much stuff below their cost. I believe that there may be certain auctions on each site that do operate as a legitimate auction, being able to identify which are legit is only possible AFTER the auction has closed.... too late if the bids are costing you R5.00 or R10.00 each. Rather go to a licenced casino and use your winnings to pay retail price.... you will probably save yourself some heartache in the longer term AND have better luck in getting what you want.

Remember that these sites collect the closing bid amount from the successful bidder AND all the bid costs from all the unsuccessful ones out there, so a closing big of R4,000.00 for a retail item of say R10,000.00 may seem like a good buy for the winning bidder, but the business has possibly raked in R5 or R10 for each of the R1.00 incremental bids above the starting bid (R1.00 ??)...... ((4000 bids x R5.00) - (R5.00 per bid that the winner made, say 20 = R100) + (R4,000 final bid))..... they make R23,900.00 less cost (of R10,000) :think: R13,900 PROFIT while the buyer only pays R4,000..... nice for the buyer, but the rest (some additional R9,900) comes from the suckers willing to try their luck while funding these organisations..... :big_eyes:

Rather long winded response but my advice still stands.... stay away from them or suffer the disappointment and consequences....
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Re: Ziinga.com?

Unread post by onewithnature » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:37 pm

Thank you DuQues and Scottm for some excellent and sage advice. :clap: :clap:

DuQues, the links clearly show there are many other similar sites that seem to scam the unwary!

Scott, your explanations put everything in perspective - thanks for taking the time to explain. Ziinga increments at 10 cents a time, but I noticed that the auction increases time just before the time runs out - so, yes, automatic bidders are at work.

Summary: I'll certainly stay clear, and others are advised to do the same!
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The growing list of sites to learn about digital photography

Unread post by turkoyz » Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:15 pm

Please join me in building a list of websites that teaches you everything about digital photography.

In our case the emphasis will obviously fall on wildlife photography.

I know it's a very broad field, maybe we can later compartmentalise it?

Something like:

1. The basics of a digital camera
2. The readings on your camera
a. ISO
b. F
c. etc.
3. Basic terms
a. Depth of field
b. White noise
c. etc
4. How to take photos when it's ...
a. Daytime
b. Nighttime
c. Raining
d. Moving object
e. Landscape
f. Sunrise/ sunset

You get the idea.

I'll start with this contribution:
http://camerasim.com/camera-simulator.html

What's your contribution?

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Re: The growing list of sites to learn about digital photogr

Unread post by Switchback » Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:01 am

I get weekly updates and tips on Digital Photography School:

http://www.digital-photography-school.com

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Re: Nikon D90 lens choice....

Unread post by JustNature » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:59 am

john n poppy wrote:Hi all,
Just a warning - there is a well advertised company on the net at the moment
SIMPLY ELECTRONICS
that is selling photo gear at good prices but type there name into google before you buy!!!
I didnt and after cancelling the order 2 hours after ordering it I am now 10 days later still waiting for my refund.. :wall:
Beware
john


Hi John n Poppy,

Just a word of advise that I have come accustomed to is that if you going to buy online do yourself a favor and just check on This site what reviews the company has, has helped me on odd occasions.
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Photography courses & reputable shops

Unread post by Sundowner » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:57 am

Hi all! :yaya:

Where to begin oh where to begin?!!

Fisrtly, I apologise if there is another thread on this, but I could not find one using the 'search' function.

I am a very limited photographer to start off with. I enjoy it when I get a photo 'spot on' and crisp, but unfortunately this operator only gets lucky 1/10 times. The rest are just about average.
I always wanted to start off right and learn everything there is to know before I go off and buy stuff that I cannot use to its full potential.
That said, I was fortunate to get a nice 'incentive' at work which made it possible for me to get a Nikon D90 when I visited the UK. I knew at the time this DSLR was way above my knowledge and ability, but I am very keen to get to know it and use it to its full potential.

Before I go on, I have the Nikon D90 with a AF-S Nikkor 18-105mm 1:3.5-5.6G ED lens.

I have taken the time to go through the manual and practised the basic function in the Kruger with it.
To my realization I immediately saw that I will need to get a way bigger lens. :twisted:

So before I go off and rob a bank, I would like to get know all the 'lingo' and terminology etc etc. and get 'streetwise'. It doesn't help buying stuff I you don't even know WHAT you are buying!!

So my question(s):
1. What place/person would you recommend to go for proper photography lessons, i.e. value for money? I would like to get the best out of the D90. I stay in Pretoria...
2. When the day comes to get my lenses, converters etc, which place would you recommend best value for money and good service?

My main objective is to take wildlife photos, I spend quite a bit of time in the Kruger each year and I get :mrgreen: looking at everybody's awesome photos!

As I said, I would first like to get schooled properly before I take out the big bucks and use my equipment to its full potential.

Thank you in advance! :wink:

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Re: Photography courses & reputable shops

Unread post by noel » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:12 pm

Hi SD, have you checked out www.outdoorphoto.co.za. You will get a lot of help there, as well as where to get photo equipment and courses.

In Johannesburg I know of Kameraz in Rosebank for equipment and Camerastuff in Saxonwold, the former offers both new and second hand equipment, the latter offers regular courses, and also equipment.

And not to worry about the 1/10 ratio-we are/were all there. And expect a slow move to 2/10. :P

If you need a partner in crime for that bank operation, let me know :lol: Just remember this is the KNP forum-there is such a concept as the "lions share" :lol:

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Re: Photography courses & reputable shops

Unread post by Sundowner » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:34 pm

Thank you Noel! :thumbs_up:

I will have a look at the sites, thank you. The reason for me posting is that there are so many people on the internet claiming to be pro photographers (which are far from it) and so many of them give courses and at the end of the day you wasted your time and money. You just don't know who is safe and who is not...

I am hoping to hear from some mites which had personally attended a good course with someone in the area that he would recommend without hesitation.

I think when it comes to the share, I will be the hungriest lion in there! :D

I don't care how long it takes, as long as I can see improvement and know/understand what I am doing right and wrong I will be an even happier camper! :thumbs_up:

In the meantime, its me and my D90 playing around and getting to know it a bit better, even though I am a bit in the dark.. :slap: :tongue:
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Re: The growing list of sites to learn about digital photogr

Unread post by Dreamer » Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:14 pm

At home...... dreaming of next trip to KTP

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Re: The growing list of sites to learn about digital photogr

Unread post by Massimo » Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:38 am

Hey guys also try http://www.wild-eye.co.za/ its an awesome website and they have things to do on the weekend to help you with your photography. This past weekend they had a challenge to take a photo every hour on the hour with your cellphone. It was not to see what quality you could get it was about what you see and how you place it in your photo! Go have a look :) you will love it
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Re: The growing list of sites to learn about digital photogr

Unread post by Andre V » Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:41 am

Hi Guys,
Another one here : www.wildphotomag.co.za


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