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Strange Kruger Lapwing

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Re: Strange Kruger Lapwing

Unread post by Ferdelance » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:04 pm

WOW I'm glad I found this thread. I saw a white lapwing @ Lake Panic on the 4 September this year but I couldn't believe it. Thought I was going a little crazy! Unfortunatly to far a way to photograph. :big_eyes:
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Re: Strange Kruger Lapwing

Unread post by Bushbuddies » Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:14 pm

We were lucky enough to visit KNP from 3-5 December. Having read this thread before that - I specifically kept an eye open for this interesting Lapwing at Lake Panic. But it seemed he/she was not around anymore.

On 4 December, we headed North towards Tshokwane - and sure enough - spotted this Lapwing at Leeupan! Pretty sure it has to be either exactly the same one (most likely) or another of it's kind.

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I snapped away - to bring some more pics of this lapwing to this thread - hope this will help...

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The only other Lapwing we spotted in the area was a Blacksmith Lapwing. They were not together all the time though.

It seems he/she's moved on quite a bit... :hmz:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by WildWings » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:37 am

I saw this lapwing on the Sabie river low level bridge near Skukuza recently. It might be leucistic. Any thoughts?
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Dabchick » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:58 am

@WildWings

There was a bit of discussion about this particular bird that has been seen on and off in the Skukuza area since October. See this thread:
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Re: Strange Kruger Lapwing

Unread post by WildWings » Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:10 pm

I saw the lapwing at the Sabie low level bridge near Skukuza on 27 Jan 2011 at about 15:30. It was by itself although there was a group of Blacksmith Lapwings nearby. It seemed bigger than the BL. General giss reminded me of a Whitecrowned Lapwing.

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I was trying to get a wing and tail view, but this was as much as I got.
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Fascinating indeed.

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Re: Strange Kruger Lapwing

Unread post by Falconry4ever » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:12 pm

I would have to go with a leucistic Blacksmith Lapwing. The dark orange-red eye indicates Blacksmith genes with pale upperwing coverts of the African Wattled Lapwing or maybe White-crowned Lapwing. But why no wattles or large spurs seen on photos? Are the Blacksmith genetics stronger in order to eliminate possible wattles?

Attention, attention!! After consulting the large Roberts and looking under Spur-winged Lapwing, what are the chances this is a leucistic Spur-winged Vanellus spinosus? The Spur-winged Lapwing matches the posture, upperwing covert colours, eye colour as well as the area where the black starts on the belly of all these photos submitted. The submitted photos also show black on the forehead, in front of the crown, the Spur-winged Lapwing is the only species that has black colouration on the whole crown and forehead?? Come on I believe this is a long shot, but consider!
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Re: Strange Kruger Lapwing

Unread post by ross hawkins » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:01 pm

Just looking at these pics.

is this not two different birds?
Bushbuddies - closer to blacksmithx?? or else Leucistic ??

Wildwings bird could be a Leucistic Spur Winged Plover

Maybe this is just complicating things now, not sure?

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Re: Strange Kruger Lapwing

Unread post by Falconry4ever » Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:10 pm

ross hawkins wrote:Just looking at these pics.

is this not two different birds?
Bushbuddies - closer to blacksmithx?? or else Leucistic ??

Wildwings bird could be a Leucistic Spur Winged Plover

Maybe this is just complicating things now, not sure?

The plumage of the birds photographed by bushbuddies do look different (not considering colour) from wildwings, but CAN such changes (especially black on crown and belly) take place from juv. to adult in just over a month (Dec. to Jan.)?
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Re: Strange Kruger Lapwing

Unread post by WildWings » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:42 am

Saw the lapwing again on 9 Feb at 15:15 at the low level bridge. This time it was among the Blacksmith lapwings. Seeing them among the BLs made me realise the size-difference is not as distinct as I initially thought. One BL acted slightly hostile to it as it chased it briefly, after which the lapwing moved away to one side. I went back there again a couple of days later in the mornings, but didn't see it again.
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Re: Strange Kruger Lapwing

Unread post by WildWings » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:43 pm

This thread has run dry a bit, but just to let you know I saw the lapwing again on 13 December 2011 at Lake Panic.

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Re: Strange Kruger Lapwing

Unread post by bushychild » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:32 am

I saw the same bird at Lake Panic on 9th December 2011. I have attached a link to a photo here which shows what appear to be yellow wattles at the corner of the eyes. My trusty guide thinks it may be a leucistic blacksmith as it was amongst them, but there still appears to be no concensus.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/72149693@N02/6515772633/

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Re: Strange Kruger Lapwing

Unread post by Trevor Hardaker » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:34 am

This bird has caused lots of discussion over the last year or more and there have been loads of suggestions as to its identity. It has been suggested as an aberrant Spur-winged or Long-toed Lapwing, both extremely rare species in this area. There have been suggestions that it is a partially leucistic Blacksmith or White-crowned Lapwing, but these also don't tie up exactly. And then there is the suggestion that it is a Blacksmith x White-crowned Lapwing which is also slightly aberrant. The latter ID is a suggestion that I first put forward about a year ago and, based on all the current evidence I have seen, I am still sticking to that at the moment...

This bird shows fully black primaries and secondaries, a feature which would certainly support Blacksmith Lapwing involved in the parentage. The bird also shows white lesser and median upperwing coverts with mostly black greater upperwing coverts with what appears to be a white trailing edge. That upperwing pattern does not match any local species of Lapwing. Yes, this is an aberrant bird, but a semi-leucistic or semi-albino species would still show the correct pattern on the wing, even if some of the feathers were white. Spur-winged Lapwings have brown upperwing coverts (no black in them at all) and Long-toed Lapwing have white upperwing coverts (also with no black in them), so where does the black come from. The only species that shows some black in the upperwing coverts is White-crowned, hence the suggestion that this may be a hybrid Blacksmith x White-crowned.

I have not heard any recording of this bird’s call, so can’t really comment on that. There is a photo which shows the bird in question alongside Blacksmith Lapwings and it seems pretty much the same size. Spur-winged is a slightly smaller bird and, although it may be difficult to ascertain this when the bird is on its own, next to Blacksmiths it should be noticeable.

I just think we need to look at this realistically – we have an aberrant bird whose plumage does not seem to match any particular species at all. Two very rare contenders are being suggested, both of them semi-albino or semi-leucistic, and both of them EXTREMELY rare in the country. What plumage features and bare part colouration is visible does not match either of these two species spot on. The other 2 contenders being suggested are common in the area. And, although this is an aberrant bird, the plumage features and bare part colouration again do not match either of these two species exactly. The third suggestion is of a hybrid between 2 species which commonly occur in the area and could possibly explain some of the plumage anomalies visible in the photo. I’m afraid that, for now, I am going to take the conservative route on this one and go with the latter, but I would love to be proven wrong...!

Enjoy the continuing puzzle...! That's what makes bird ID such fun... :lol:
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Re: Strange Kruger Lapwing

Unread post by WildWings » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:42 pm

Thanks Trevor. It appeared that what you have suggested was correct. I found two adult lapwings (blacksmith and whitecrowned) with 2 hybrid chicks on the H4-1, 1km east of Nkuhlu on 14/3/2012. There are slight variations in the chicks but they are similar to some of the specimens seen before.

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Re: Strange Kruger Lapwing

Unread post by Trevor Hardaker » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:40 pm

Thanks Simon for adding those very useful images and hopefully the answer to what has been a real head-scratcher over the last year or two...

I think we have all learnt a lot out of this extremely interesting bird - I know I certainly have... :thumbs_up:
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Re: Strange Kruger Lapwing

Unread post by Bushbuddies » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:15 pm

Wow! Thanks Simon - you've finally caught the parents responsible for this puzzle with their offspring in one pic! :clap: The puzzle is finally solved! And Trevor - what a guy to have known this, and stick to your guns - finally we now have the photographic proof. Jungle fever... :twisted:
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