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Re: Nikon vs. Sigma lenses?

Unread post by Phugwane » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:49 pm

I think there are some confusing messages here

- The 80-400 and 70-300 Nikkor Lenses are consumer lenses and as such in the Nikon scheme of things they cant use teleconvertors. Only the far more expensive Pro Nikkors like the 300 f2.8 , 70-200 f2.8 and 200-400 F4 and the big primes take convertors
- The comment about Kameraz stating that the Sigma 50-500 is a newer technology lens is correct but they dont mention the superior image quality of the Nikkor 80-400 over the S 50-500

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Re: Nikon vs. Sigma lenses?

Unread post by BushNuts » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:07 pm

Phugwane wrote:- The 80-400 and 70-300 Nikkor Lenses are consumer lenses and as such in the Nikon scheme of things they cant use teleconvertors. Only the far more expensive Pro Nikkors like the 300 f2.8 , 70-200 f2.8 and 200-400 F4 and the big primes take convertors


Looking at the manual provided with my 70-300mm VRII, it says that teleconverters (all models) are incompatible.

Personal opinion, want quality = go Nikkor, want reach = go Sigma, want both = empty wallet and a lot of debt.
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Re: Sigma 120-400 OS HSM lens

Unread post by big5spotter » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:22 pm

Hi

Have you considered the Sigma 150-500mm?I have the 150-500mm and for the price I would not go any other way.The OS bit slow sometimes with birds in flight or moving objects but still ok.

So the 120-400 -R8 999

and the 150-500 -R12 999 on sacamera

so its a R4000 difference. If you have R12 999 I would take the 150-500 and sure somewhere you can get it cheaper or maybe second hand?Check outdoorphoto there is 1 for canon going for R8500.

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Big lense for Canon 450D

Unread post by harrys » Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:34 pm

Hi

What lense bigger than a 300mm will you use that is not going to bankrupt you.

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Re: Big lense for Canon 450D

Unread post by bert » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:52 pm

Really quite happy with the 100-400L from Canon

In the same money area, bit cheaper
Sigma 150-500
Friend of mine owns one and we used both these lenses in Kruger last year
Sigma is a little slower but optics are great

Unless you want a prime lens
Which are way more expensive

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Re: Big lense for Canon 450D

Unread post by EOS_User » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:30 am

Hello harrys;

Agree with Bert... For pure value-for-money the 100-400 takes a lot of beating. I have one and love it! It's a little 'slow' at the long end (f/5.6), but I compensate by ramping up the ISO. The 450D should be able to cope with ISO400 without too much noise, and ISO800 is acceptable with a little work in Neat Image or Noise Ninja etc.

It's the lens I expect to have surgically attached to my 40D in KNP in October :D

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Re: Big lense for Canon 450D

Unread post by DuQues » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:54 am

Another 100-400 owner chiming in. :D

It's a perfect lens for Kruger, especially as you do get sightings closer by, like the mongooses or dungbeetles. Simply zoom out, and done.
At 1600 grams it's not too heavy which is a factor when flying, and during walks it's quite manageble while still giving you 400 mm.

Quality wise it's great (well, it is an L lens.), though slightly less sharp than a fixed focus lens.
The bokeh is great, way better than the Sigma lenses have, and at least as good as topquality Nikon lenses.
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Re: Big lense for Canon 450D

Unread post by oddesy » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:46 pm

Harrys, the 100-400 is a brilliant lens! but the 400mm prime non IS is also a great option provided you can stay still. The sigma 150-500 also produces very nice results and is around the same price as the 400mm prime or maybe a bit less.

Maybe another option for you to look at could be the sigma 120-400mm. From what i have read the optics are fairly good and it also has optical stabilisation (same as the 150-500). Plus its the cheapest at around R9500. All the links are for SA based shops :thumbs_up:

Have a look here:
Canon 400mm F5.6
Canon 100-400 F4.5-5.6
Sigma 150-500mm
Sigma 120-400mm
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The new ultimate Kruger lens from Canon

Unread post by bert » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:32 pm

If you have the money or want to replace your zoom for wildlife hang on
200-400 4.0 with 1.4 convertor

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Purchase of New Lens - Opinions Please....

Unread post by Joubie » Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:04 am

I want to upgrade and buy myself my first L lens.
The two choices I have in mind are:
100-400mm L lens
or
70-300mm L lens (Just come onto the market).
The prices are very similar and within my budget.
I am leaning towards the 70-300 because I think I will get more everyday use out of it and it will be handy for our yearly visits to KNP or KTP but am I duplicating what I have in my kit?
My kit at the moment is very basic:
Canon 550D
EF-S18-55 mm
EF-55-250 mm
Any input will be appreciated.
Thanks.

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Re: Purchase of New Lens - Opinions Please....

Unread post by DuQues » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:09 pm

Massimo wrote:My option would be go for the 400 F 5.6 L (shaper then the zoom ) and for kruger use you will mostly use your zoom on max anyway.

There I don't agree. I do use my 100-400 on the max often, but not always. That's the power of a zoomlens, you don't need to move your car back when the <leopard, lion, birdie> moves closer. You just zoom out.
With the 100-400 you have another advantage, birds in flight. Find and follow them zoomed out, then quickly zoom in and take the shot(s).
With 400 only you'll loose track of the bird as your FOV (Field of view) is too small.

The 70-300 I would not go for. At the shortest end it's over 100mm on a crop camera, way too long for landscapes and such. This means you are unlikely to use that end.
300 mm is simply not long enough, as has been said above, especially if you are a birder, or may become one.

I would choose the 100-400, well, I have already. ;)

But! I have my eye set on an upcoming lens, also L, and also expensive, like the 500mm ones actually.
That's the 200-400, with build-in 1.4 extender. Yummy!
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Re: Purchase of New Lens - Opinions Please....

Unread post by bert » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:50 am

Read some tests
The 70-300 is sharper then the 100-400
but can not be used with a 1.4 extender
So you will miss out on birdies as Duco said

btw, i also own a 100-400 and the lens i use for wildlife
Can get a close-up of a ellie eye or portrait 8)

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Re: Purchase of New Lens - Opinions Please....

Unread post by Trombone » Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:30 pm

I shoot video but my wife used to have the Canon 100-400 zoom and it was fine to 300 but then fell off fast towards 400.

She now has the 400 f5.6 and what a difference. Her pics are sharp and she uses that with a 70-200 f4...perfect as we were told by a pro photographer that any more than a 3x zoom is no good so 70-200 is fine and so is 200-400 but 80-400 (Nikon) and 100-400 (Canon) not. She swears by her 400 f5.6

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Re: Purchase of New Lens - Opinions Please....

Unread post by Morkel777 » Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:52 pm

some good advice given above

I have shot with the 100-400 for a few years now as my main "wildlife" lens and I love the versatility. It's quite sharp although not as sharp as a prime.

I recently "upgraded" to a 300mm f2.8 prime with converters, but I doubt the 100-400 will leave my bag and will probably be on my 2nd camera next to me for when I need the flexibility.

I've heard good things about the new 70-300mm L though...yet I found in most SANParks locations you will feel you need a bit more reach than 300mm, even on a crop body.
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Canon 70-200 F2.8 is II With 2X Converter Or 100-400 F4 Is

Unread post by Kalaharikind » Sun May 08, 2011 10:06 am

Canon 70-200 F2.8 is II With 2X Converter Or 100-400 F4 Is
Please advise on the above 2 lenses wich would you guys recomend. And if autofocus works with the Canon 70-200 F2.8 is II and 1.4 and 2 Converter.
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