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Re: Dead rhino

Unread post by Bennievis » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:01 am

Richprins wrote:Still, male/female fights of that duration are extremely unlikely! :shock:


maybe they were married :whistle:

Jokes aside, can you imagine the sheer force and brutal power of such an encounter...
A fight between a male and a female, what can possibly trigger it?

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Re: Dead rhino

Unread post by Jeanus » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:44 am

Hi RP although very unusual there are occasionaly male/female fights. One in a reserve near me ended with the male killing the female - she was trying to protect a male calf from him. The calf was almost weaned and survived although the scaring from his wounds still makes him recognisable years later and he is now a terratorial bull himself.
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Re: Dead rhino

Unread post by Kicker Cat » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:08 pm

During a trip up to the bush some three weeks ago we witnessed a vicious fight between two Rhino.
We had just sighted Rhino in the bush and on stopping saw that there were 4 Rhino one of which was a calf. Suddenly another Rhino appeared out of the bush, large and very clearly a male.
He moved closer to the other Rhinos and one by one they moved away leaving just the male and one other – this was a female and seemed to be the mother of the calf.
She steadfastly stood her ground despite constant manoeuvrings of the large male.
It is not clear what the intentions of the male were as both Rhinos stood head to head making a bellowing sound
Suddenly the male made a charge and the female turned, it is not clear what she was doing either.
Then the male started using his horn and started attempting to dig into the female.
He managed to gore her under the front right leg and the back rear leg.
It appeared as if he wanted to lift her off the ground and get her to fall on her side.
The female put up a very ferocious defense and seemingly refused to succumb.
All during this altercation she seemed to squeal (the noise she made was very high pitched and quite different to the bellowing sound they made before)
This continued for about ten minutes when all of a sudden the female had a very sudden change of attitude. Her stance changed dramatically from one of defense to one of attack – and the male’s attempts at goring her stopped – they once again stood head to head bellowing.
At this time we were able to see some of the damaged caused, the female was bleeding from the hind leg, and more so from the wound under her front leg.
She had some facial wounds (see pic)
The male also had some wounds but he moved behind bushes so it was not clear where he had been wounded
The female appeared to want to move off on her own but the male followed constantly.
It is not clear if the male wanted to subdue the female so that he could mate with the female or whether there were other reasons for the fight.
Subsequent questions to rangers did not get us any answers either.
Despite her wounds the female did not seem to be to hampered and we saw her two days later with her calf – no male to be seen

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Re: Square-lipped Rhinoceros

Unread post by Richprins » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:39 pm

Nice story!

Here's a mom and calf yesterday:

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Sorry for quality, but a bit dark!

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Re: Square-lipped Rhinoceros

Unread post by iNkwazi » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:59 pm

Apparently rhinos do make noises that are used for direct communication and vary from puffing sounds, snorts, a deep but quiet roar (not like a lion), squeals and shrieks.
White rhino males will particularly emit high pitched squeal when trying to keep an estrus cow from leaving his territory.
Snorts, honks and roars are used to maintain spacing between animals.
Loud shrieks are used defensively and the squeak-pant is made by bulls that are chasing away other rhinos. When courtship occurs the male will make a soft hiccup-panting sound.
These noises are generally only heard in the wild when there is no human disturbance.
Rhino calves squeal when they want protection.
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Re: Square-lipped Rhinoceros

Unread post by Wild about cats » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:49 pm

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white or black? wHO HELPS?

Unread post by schliek » Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:55 pm

these are black too, I think
My friend thinks white, I think he's wrong
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these 2, white or black?

Unread post by schliek » Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:58 pm

Hi there
I think they are black, my friend, white
who has the verdict
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White Rhino

Unread post by Sprocky » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:23 pm

I see there is no thread on these animals.

Today for the first time I have managed to capture a Rhino marking it's territory by scent spraying. Not the clearest shot but you can see the spray.

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White Rhino Problem??

Unread post by o-dog » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:44 am

Estimated numbers for White Rhino in the KNP vary considerably. But taking an average of all sources I have come across, it seems that there are a minimum of 8000 White Rhino in the the park. This is great news obviously as this species was on the brink of extinction in the 60's with only a couple of hundred remaining in the Natal area of South Africa.

One can easily see the increase in rhino numbers in the KNP and in the early 90's such a sighting was comparable to seeing leopard or Sable. Nowadays I see them everywhere even all the way up north at Boyela waterhole between Shingwedzi and Punda Maria.

Anyway what I am trying to get at is this: what is the carrying capacity of White Rhino in the KNP?? if one has even been worked out?
And is there a chance that the elephant problem is going to be matched to some extent by their pachyderm counterparts?? Sure rhinos don't impact on the vegetation as much as elephants do but are they going to out compete other herbivores with detrimental results??

If this could be the case, perhaps now is the time to consider management of numbers of this now locally common species before we get to a stage where there are just to many?? :hmz:

This is something that has interested me of late...would love to hear other views on the topic!
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Re: White Rhino Problem??

Unread post by Imberbe » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:53 am

Rhino are actively being managed already. SANParks is the source for many private and provincial reserves where rhino has been re-established in their former range.

A big nature conservation success story. :thumbs_up:

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Re: White Rhino Problem??

Unread post by o-dog » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:11 pm

Thanx a lot Imberbe :thumbs_up:

Seeing your post on the census is actually what finally got me around to start the topic.
I am sure the SANParks are doing their best to manage their numbers, as was the case with elephants. And even if they are translocating rhinos, I would be surprised if the kept up with the current growth rate.
Maybe this will be a more interesting subject in 10 years time. But I still would love to know what their carrying capacity is and if they would out compete other herbivores.

Either way I am sure management has studied this - it would be interesting to see what they have come up with.
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Re: White Rhino Problem??

Unread post by H. erectus » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:19 pm

You are quoting white rhino numbers? A great success story re; nature conservation!.
Though what about the black rhino. To my knowledge this one was even more extinct.
Any info on them O dog. Thanks

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Re: White Rhino Problem??

Unread post by AjayB » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:11 pm

Promising stuff for sure and a far cry from the scenario not that long ago. Probably still a long way off a maximum carrying capacity within KNP but that would be big thumb suck and not backed up with any facts. WR have always preferred the south by far but it was nice to see them in good numbers right up to Satara area. As for BR, sad to say they will stay a problem mainly I guess because of their fairly strictly solitary nature -------

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Re: White Rhino Problem??

Unread post by o-dog » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:30 pm

Hey H.e

I am no expert on Black Rhino (or White for that matter) but a couple of things I do know are that the White Rhino was closer to extinction with the last remaining population occurring in the Natal area of South Africa - this was around the 60's. The Black Rhino also got close to extinction but being more widespread it hasn't been as threatened with extinction at any one time as the white. These days Black Rhino are more endangered and certain populations are under real threat throughout Africa.
In terms of Black Rhino numbers in KNP, I have heard thatanywhere between 300-500. Interestingly though, 2 years ago in the Sabi Sands, the odd Black Rhino was seen every few years, mostly close to the southern border with the KNP. In the last year or so there have been quite a few sightings close to the Eastern Border with the KNP showing that if not an increase in number, there seems to be an increase in range.
I know that there are also populations of BR in Addo and MZNP and in Hluhluwe and other Natal Parks there are decent numbers. In Hluhluwe I saw 4 different BR in 10 or so days.
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