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Re: Some advice for a beginner

Unread post by Josh of the Bushveld » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:49 pm

Guys, none of the D40/D60/D3000/D5000 will autofocus the majority of long lenses you'll use for wildlife. All other Nikon DLSRs will (and all Canons will autofocus all Canon lenses).

The only advantage of the above cameras is that they're smaller and lighter.

Trust me on this, I now have to buy a second camera because of it.

If you want to minimise the amount of money you spend, buy a 2nd hand D50 or D70.

@BushBuddies: optical zoom has nothing to do with magnification, it is simply a measure of the range of the lens. The magnification of lens has to do with quite a lot of factors, including the sensor size.
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Re: Some advice for a beginner

Unread post by BushNuts » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:18 pm

joshilewis wrote:Guys, none of the D40/D60/D3000/D5000 will autofocus the majority of long lenses you'll use for wildlife.


Unfortunately true. The only long lens that works (Nikon lens that is) is the 70-300mm AF-S VR lens and the new 200-400mm, which is great... if you've won the lottery :dance: and even then you would have bought a more expensive camera 8) .

Mind you the 70-300mm AF-S VR (be careful there are four 70-300mm from Nikon) is good for most beginners and usually if you go bigger you've saved up a good bit of dough and would already have got one of Nikon's better models (D50, D70, D80, D90, etc.).

JL, I'm guessing the guy who sold you the cheaper model never warned you about the AF issues of your model :naughty: , that sucks.
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Re: Some advice for a beginner

Unread post by badprop_za » Sat May 01, 2010 3:37 pm

HI guys,

I am a proud owner of a Nikon D3000. The lack of AF with lenses can be an issue, but I have learnt to cope without it. Some issues that I had with AF is that it would sometimes focus on the wrong thing and I the subject is out of focus. (It could also be lack of skill :redface: )

The guys from ODP told me this from the start. For me it was a case of what can I live with and what not. For the price they offered, I was willing to accept the lack of AF until I will be purchasing a 2nd body.

For lenses at this point, it is more important for to have a lense with VR/OS than AF. These days I don't even use AF on my 18-55 kit lens I received with the camera.

My 2c worth would be to determine what can you live with and what not. Also talk to guys from reputable dealers. Salesmen at mass retailers are looking to push sales.
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Re: Some advice for a beginner

Unread post by Josh of the Bushveld » Mon May 03, 2010 7:28 am

BushNuts wrote:JL, I'm guessing the guy who sold you the cheaper model never warned you about the AF issues of your model :naughty: , that sucks.

Nope, I knew this going on. It was more of a price point issue. Have no regrets with the decision (over two years later)

Bushbuddies wrote:In this thread it became obvious that some Nikon's don't autofocus with all the lenses - and that one should rather buy the ones that do. Anything like that with Canon? Do the sigma lenses also work on all the canons?

No, there are no Canons with that issue. Yes, any Sigma lens with a Canon mount will work with any Canon.

badprop_za wrote:HI guys,

I am a proud owner of a Nikon D3000. The lack of AF with lenses can be an issue, but I have learnt to cope without it. Some issues that I had with AF is that it would sometimes focus on the wrong thing and I the subject is out of focus. (It could also be lack of skill :redface: )
More likely lack of skill. Try use spot focus or single area focus (check your manual).

badprop_za wrote:For lenses at this point, it is more important for to have a lense with VR/OS than AF. These days I don't even use AF on my 18-55 kit lens I received with the camera.

I don't agree with you on this, especially at 18-55mm focal lengths. The only reason (in my opinion) you can do this is because the minimum aperture on this lens is so high (and thus much deeper DOF). Try doing it with a 50mm F1.8 etc. Personally I can't manual focus at such small focal lengths.

I'd also like to point out that this autofocus issue is really an issue only when we're talking about long lenses for wildlife (above 300mm). For shooting everything else (potraits, landscape, travel etc) you won't have a problem finding DX lenses that will autofocus with all Nikon (DX) bodies.
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Help for a NIKON D90 novice

Unread post by john n poppy » Mon May 17, 2010 2:31 pm

Hi All,

Have recently bought a D90 after having a D40x for two years, my girlfriend who is coming along for the trip has bought a D3000.

I could do with soem advice.....the lenses we have are..

50mm / 70-300 vr / 2x 18-55 vr and non vr / 55-200 vr and a cheap fish eye.

my questions are.....which lenses to use where (we are taking the 3 bodies)car / camp

Good settings for landscapes / close ups / night shots etc.

Hope you can help

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Re: Help for a NIKON D90 novice

Unread post by DuQues » Mon May 17, 2010 2:47 pm

That's fairly easy....

The two best bodies with the longest lenses, so the 70-300 and the 55-200.
That means that if the lenses are too short you still have pixels enough to crop a bit.

For the landscapes use the 18-55, if it's nice and sunny the sunny f16 rule will probably work, so 1/100 at f/16. Depends a bit on the available light of course, and the rule is for ISO 100. The f/16 stays though, the shutterspeed may be a little higher. (On a Canon you can only do 1/125, might be on a Nikon too.)

Close-ups want no background at all, so you open the lens as far as it will go (f/4? Depends on the lens.) That also gives you a very high shutterspeed, freezing the subject so you'll be able to count hairs.

Night asks for tripod(s). You are going to have shuttertimes long enough to down a beer in. Lens (almost) fully open again, it's nonsense to block light under those conditions. ;)

All of course assume that you have no UV filter attached, but have the lenshood on the lens.

The 50 mm will be quite... Well, not useless, but on a crop digital body it's simply not wide enough anymore.
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Re: Help for a NIKON D90 novice

Unread post by RUMURUTI » Mon May 17, 2010 2:54 pm

Hi john n poppy, .
Nice kit you have there, I have a D90 plus a D80, and the one item I would add is the battery power pack. Extremely useful in the bush and can shoot away without too many worries of changing batteries.
I'd say use the 70-300 VR on you D90.
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Re: Help for a NIKON D90 novice

Unread post by RUMURUTI » Mon May 17, 2010 5:01 pm

Hi John,
Ready to take all the blame!! :D
Have a look here, both taken yesterday with my D90!
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Re: Help for a NIKON D90 novice

Unread post by Switchback » Tue May 18, 2010 7:13 am

I myself own a D90, out of your group of lenses, you could probably leave the 50mm, I only use my 50mm for Portrait Photography. Have a look at my TR in my signature, all taken with the D90 and mostly a Sigma 150 - 500mm :thumbs_up:
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Re: Help for a NIKON D90 novice

Unread post by DuQues » Tue May 18, 2010 11:16 am

UV filter..... Bad?

Wikipedia wrote:UV filters are individual compounds or mixtures to prevent ultraviolet (UV) light from coming through. UV filters are used in sunscreens to protect skin or in photography to reduce haziness or fogginess created by ultraviolet light.

A UV filter in photography is transparent to visible light, and so can be left on the lens for nearly all shots. UV filters are among the least expensive filters, so many people use them as protection for their lenses, although this may not be effective. For this purpose they are preferred over other kinds of filters which are more intrusive, such as neutral density filters.

The UV filter absorbs ultraviolet rays without changing the exposure. With most images, people will not see a difference when a UV filter is used. However, UV filters (in particular filters lacking coating) may introduce flaring and have negative impact on contrast and sharpness, especially when a strong light source is present.

Now that may have been an idea with film cameras, however your digital doesn't even see it! An infrared filter could be usefull, but is incorporated in your sensor.

So what do you need an UV filter for?
To degrade the image quality.
To create lensflare.

Not to protect your lens, that's what you have your lenscap and lenshood for.

Hint: Grab your UV filter, put it in its box, and try to sell it. If it's a 77 mm one you can use it as a (not very well working) beermat...
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Re: Help for a NIKON D90 novice

Unread post by DuQues » Tue May 18, 2010 1:33 pm

Yep! The lenshood.

That saved my camera and lens when the combination camera and 100-400 went for a excursion, 3 meters straight down. :shock:
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Help please, which camera and lens to buy?

Unread post by carson » Thu May 27, 2010 7:29 am

We will be in Kruger for 19 days beginning mid-August. I have been using a little canon digital point and shoot. I am considering a Nikon d5000 or possibly a dl90.

The d5000 comes with 55-200 lens. Will this be powerful enough for most situations or do I really need the next step up 70-300 which comes with the dl90? I prefer not to spend the extra money if I can help it, especially since I am a novice and may not use the camera that often once we return home to the states. I am also concerned the dl90 may be too complicated for someone that hasn't owned a decent camera in years.

I am also open to other camera/lens options. I do want to purchase the camera soon so I can practice.

I am grateful for your opinions and insight from your personal experiences.

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Re: Help please, which camera and lens to buy?

Unread post by Switchback » Thu May 27, 2010 7:44 am

Hi Carson,

I assume your talking about the Nikon D90? In that case, my answer is straight forward: Get the D90! Yes, I am biased as I am using one, but I am biased for good reason - it's a magnificent piece of equipment that delivers!

Yes, the D90 has more advanced features than the D5000, but not to an extent that you need a degree to set it up. If you get the D90, I'll help you set it up in a jiffy. The other reason is: You'll kick yourself with the 200mm lens for not having 300mm. 300mm is considered the "minimum" for above average wildlife photograpahy.

At the end of the day, you are using the same sensor, both D5000 and D90 body has the same sensor, the D90 is just more rigid, more pro, better Low Light performance etc.

Have a look here: D5000 vs D90

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Re: Help please, which camera and lens to buy?

Unread post by big5spotter » Thu May 27, 2010 8:56 am

Hi

Try and maybe find a second hand D80 or D80 with a second hand 70-300mm.I got a second hand 70-300 for R1000 not the VR but I am happy.Got the Sigma 150-500 much happier.But try outdoorphoto classifieds section
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Re: Help please, which camera and lens to buy?

Unread post by Josh of the Bushveld » Thu May 27, 2010 9:15 am

There are a lot of threads discussing this, try searching.
B5S has given the advice I always give. Buy 2nd hand, its cheaper and will let you play. I'd even suggest you look for a D50 or D70 instead of a D80 (though I have seen very few D50s around lately). The D40/60/3000/5000 will not autofocus with the majority of really long lenses you'll want to use for wildlife.

I'd also suggest Gumtree, Kameraz, BidOrBuy and JunkMail.
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