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Scottm
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Re: Downloading photographs

Unread post by Scottm » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:48 pm

Like for most things in life, you pay for what you get. Personally, I would rather pay a higher price for a larger, high-quality card(s), knowing that there is less chance of anything going wrong, where the quality control is better, and in the unlikely event that something does go wrong, the card will be replaced under its lifetime warranty. I am fortunate, however, to have a dual-card system, so that even if one card becomes faulty, I still have a backup.

All things being equal, I am more inclined to get a few large capacity, high-quality cards (top quality brands), than many smaller, possibly poorer quality cards, simply to provide excess capacity that I would possibly never need.

Question (to articulate my view)- if you were in the market for a photographic system, would you purchase the most suitable and/or best camera/lens available for your needs that you could justifiably afford, or would you purchase two lesser systems for the same amount of money, to simply provide backup in the event that one may become faulty?

One last comment on quality: Be aware that there are knock-offs of various cards being touted on the market and that to protect your "investment" in storage, you should ideally acquire your cards from "reputable" sources. This should give you the peace-of-mind that you are actually getting the brand (and quality) of product you are looking for, and not just some fong-kong knock-off from a sweat shop in China.
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Re: Downloading photographs

Unread post by JDW » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:11 pm

Hi All
Without doubt quality is paramount.
Only ever buy good/high quality cards (dependant on your cameras abilities) from a reputable source.
The size is dependant on your individual needs.
In other words how big is the file that you are downloading into it?
If you are capturing in RAW then the file is going to be larger than JPEG.
Additionally as digital technology evolves and they become more efficient so file sizes have increased hugely.
My Nikon D3 creates a RAW file of about +/- 12mb.
The D3 is an old camera.
I also own a Nikon D610 which creates a RAW file of +/- 25mb - a huge difference.
How big is a RAW file using the Nikon D4s?
It therefore stands to reason that as the cameras evolve so will our need to obtain larger capacity cards. It is unlikely that we would wish to take less images.
Just the ramblings of a pensioner
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Re: Downloading photographs

Unread post by moobox » Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:30 pm

And again thanks a lot all. I appreciate the dialogue. But tell me please, how do I determine what a good brand of SD card id. I have a colleague who reckons buy nothing but SANDISK. And I have another colleague who reckons he has been with the Kingston stuff for years with nary a problem. And for myself, I have a bunch of SANDISKS which I assumed were sold to me because they cost more than the others. So, would anyone be willing to say brand A get it immediately if not sooner, brand B dont touch it.

In the meantime, I'm wanting to try all sorts with this new camera I have and I have been shooting JPG and RAW. And one of my acquaintances reckons that for action and wildlife, RAW is really a waste of space. But please, I must go for it for the more leisurely landscape and portrait type stuff. What you think?

Cheers - Ed

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Re: Downloading photographs

Unread post by JDW » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:08 pm

Ed
Consider the following;
Emotion - where the target is static or is slowly moving.
Motion - where the target is moving quickly - aircraft, team sports, motorcars etc.
For emotion you do not need a fast shutter speed and therefore you can choose whether to capture in RAW or JPEG.
For motion you need a high shutter speed to avoid blur and to keep the image sharp. When I cover rugby in daylight I need a shutter speed of 1/2000+. At night under floodlights - I'm at F2.8 and ISO 6400+ to keep the shutter speed up to between 1/600 - 1/1000. Under poor lights - have a beer instead!!!
I also need to fire burst of shots - just like a machine gun - usually burst of 3-6 with a very short interval between burst.
For motion I use JPEG because the camera can only process so many images quickly before the buffer fills up and the camera will either slow down or stop until the buffer is empty. I use a Nikon D3 which is a professional body so anything less would be even slower.
The new professional camera bodies ie the Nikon D4s has a far faster engine and larger buffer so shooting in RAW may not be a problem.
I hope this, although long winded helps.
As far as cards go - the two leading brands are SanDisk and Lexar, although Kingston is also good therefore I would recommend any of those three.
The issue of where to buy them is that from a reputable shop it is unlikely to be a fake and you have a certain amount of peace of mind. Buying on line from a reputable source ie specialist camera suppliers etc should also be a fairly safe option.
However I would not risk my money on many of the internet sites or local cheap accessories shops. The hint is in the cost!!
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Re: Downloading photographs

Unread post by moobox » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:13 am

Listen here people, I think that this may just be the thing I'm looking for. Has there been anything like this before?

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/620187 ... ard-reader

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Re: Downloading photographs

Unread post by Scottm » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:36 pm

Moobox, this looks like a great option, but depending on how many cards you carry and how much data you have to upload, it may still be cheaper (and safer) to get additional SD cards rather than this piece of equipment. Note that this is not a solid state drive (it has a mechanical drive in it, with moving parts), so the chances of this failing is far, far greater than losing data from your SD cards..... just a thought. Good quality SD cards are relatively cheap,and seldom fail. Just remember to always format your cards in your camera and not on your PC..... Internal and external hard drives are far more likely to fail more often than SD cards. As a result, I never remove images from any of my SD cards until I have a duplicate back-up and have tested both to prove to myself that the images are accessible on both. These images are then backed up to CD/DVD monthly, and while I am lucky to have never had an SD card fail on me, I have also never lost any photos due to the rigid back-up routine I religiously follow. I just believe that backing up your SD cards to this device and then formatting your SD cards will dramatically increase your chances of losing your photo's, rather than just increasing your capacity of SD cards and keeping your images on these SD cards until you can back up your images into a more reliable (and duplicate) environment.....
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