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Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by yoda » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:34 pm

I have heard via the proverbial grapevine that people travelling into or out of South Africa will need to carry their child's birth certificate. A certified copy is also ok.

Does this apply to SA citizens? Or anyone travelling into SA?

I had a look at the SA home office website and it is not really clear on the matter.

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Re: Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by arks » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:38 pm

Does this help, yoda?
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Re: Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by yoda » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:42 pm

arks wrote:Does this help, yoda?

Yup, thanks.
So I guess that is everyone.

Also, I am coming to SA a few days ahead of the SO, and my kids will be with me.
So I need a letter from her confirming that it is ok for me to travel with them?

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Re: Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by saraf » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:46 pm

Better to be safe and carry such a letter Yoda. Especially if the surnames are different.
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Re: Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by yoda » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:46 pm

Just reading it again, the website says something about an affidavit.
What exactly is that?

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Re: Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by yoda » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:48 pm

saraf wrote:Better to be safe and carry such a letter Yoda. Especially if the surnames are different.


The Mrs and I are married and the biologial parents of our 2 kids.
So both our names are on the birth cirtificates.

Due to work constraints, I am coming to SA with the kids a few days before my Mrs.

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Re: Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by saraf » Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:23 pm

Authorities are getting very twitchy about child abductions and trafficking these days. And to be honest, I'd find it comforting that someone in authority is looking out for the well being of my child, even if it does mean I have to organise a little bit in advance.

An affidavit is a legally drawn up statement. It might be worth finding a Notary and seeing if a document signed by them would be sufficient.
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Re: Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by Stark » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:32 pm

This is a topic of conversation on a few adoptive parents forums my wife is on.

We're still trying to figure out how we can travel with our adopted child (from Liberia, naturalized US Citizen) when it is completely obvious that we are not blood relations. The rules and regulations are very, very vague.
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Re: Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by yoda » Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:20 am

Stark,

When do you plan on travelling to SA next?

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Re: Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by Stark » Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:24 pm

Not for a year or so. Depends on how much home renovations the Mrs. wants to do. :)

We may wait until our youngest is 18 (5 years!) if this rule ends up being problematic. Or we will go elsewhere in the meantime.
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Re: Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by Hippotragus » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:42 pm

yoda - I have heard that a full, unabridged, birth certificate is needed for all children under the age of 18 years. In addition a letter from the parent not travelling with them, giving permission for them to travel.

I don't know about the UK, but in South Africa it can take 9-12 months to get the full unabridged birth certificate, so a lot of families' holidays are at risk.
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Re: Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by saraf » Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:12 pm

That is going to be difficult for adopted children in the UK. They don't have unabridged birth certificates.
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Re: Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by yoda » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:20 pm

saraf wrote:That is going to be difficult for adopted children in the UK. They don't have unabridged birth certificates.


Saraf,
Am I correct in saying we have only 1 type of standard birth certificate in the UK?

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Re: Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by saraf » Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:35 am

No, there is an abbreviated certificate that adopted children get, showing only the town and date of birth, with no parental details. That is usually sufficient for officialdom - I have gained a passport, driving licence, bank accounts and security clearance for my job using this certificate.

I don't know if my parents were given an adoption certificate at the time or if I could apply for a full one if it had been required. But things in the adoption world have changed significantly since my adoption so it may be different now.
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Re: Child Birth Certificate-Travelling

Unread post by forestgump » Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:31 am

This is going to be a head ache. :rtm:
It took more than a year to get an unabridged birth certificate, for one of my kids :wall:
It took less than 2 weeks for me to get my Zim birth certificate at the same time :hmz:
It took 40 minutes at a European consulate this week to renew one of my kid's passport, left with new passport in hand. :clap: :clap:

South Africa is another story....
Will watch the press, as I see it hitting the fan when Home Affairs still has not given prospective travelers their unabridged certificates, by 1st Oct.
I have applied now for 2 unabridged certificates, will see how long it takes.
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