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Spider Big 5

Unread post by Liesl Da Silva » Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:00 pm

Discovered a discussion on big five list for snakes/reptiles - author Mfezi....and it got me thinking :hmz: about a similar list for spiders - we have a lot of spiders in our country and it might be a cool idea?

Any ideas?? and or :cam: welcome
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Unread post by restio » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:16 pm

I'd add the Baboon spiders.

And perhaps the black widow - or button spider as we always call them.

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Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:00 pm

tough one, i am no spider expert. :lol:

But I would go for SA's most dangerous 5 as:

Black & Brown Button Spider
Violin Spider
Sac Spider
Six-Eyed Sand Spider
Baboon Spider (it will make you have a heart attack :lol: )

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Unread post by Liesl Da Silva » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:47 pm

I'm no expert either i just have a love/hate thing with spider's -I find them marvellously fascinating and terrifying at the same time.

Wildtuinman I like both the list you've suggested :clap: which brings me to this question: what would the criteria be for a big 5 list?
Would it be most venomous, biggest, rarest, etc. etc. etc? :huh:
Just curious, why Daddy long legs??

Candy - why the golden orb web?
Restio - why the baboon? and what do you both think of Wildtuinman's lists?
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Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:00 pm

Well the big 5 animals are all ones which was rated as the most dangerous to hunt.

The small 5 were all automatic contenders as they were all named after the big 5.

The slithering 5 of Kruger was a combination of the most venomous of each species as well as the biggest and most reliable to find.

As for this category i honestly have no idea. Apart from the baboon spider in my initial top 5 it contained the most venomous ones.

My second list included a mixture of the ones easiest to identify I would think.

Very tough one this... :roll:

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Unread post by Candy's Style » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:44 pm

Liesl Da Silva wrote:...
Candy - why the golden orb web?
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:lol: You had to ask...

I think I mentioned it because it is one of the 'well known' and most photographed spider... Not to mention its web :roll:

I would agree with:
The Black Button Spider (As a result of its venom),
The Baboon Spider (Who could mistaken it for anything else! Pure size gives it a mention)
The Trapdoor Spider (It has an unique way of catching prey and I reckon if you look hard enough you can find it any where),
The Sac Spider (due to venom and those fangs :shock: )
In Kruger :P

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Unread post by Mfezi » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:26 pm

Liesl, I like Candy's Style's list. I am no expert either on spiders, but would definitely include the Sac spider and the Button spiders (anyone of the two) in my list. The Trap door spider is a very interesting spider. The baboon spider just have to be part of the list simply for their impressive size!! And then the Golden Orb for the size and strength of its web.

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Unread post by Candy's Style » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:40 pm

The net-casting spider is harmless to humans. Three types of net-casting spiders occur in South Africa:
The Ogre-faced spider (tropical and subtropical areas)
The Humped-back spider (bushveld areas)
The Camel-backed spider (Western Cape endemic).
Although I also don't know if they occur in Kruger but should in other SANParks?
In Kruger :P

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Unread post by ScorpionKing » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:39 pm

Spides are cool because they live such fascinating lives. Just when you think arthropods are dull, archaic and lower lief forms, a jumping spider hops onto your finger, checks you out and gives you the once over. Amazing stuff!

If size is what your after. Then the following are probably southern Africa largest spider. In order of size (ladies :D )...

1. Golden brown baboon spider. (Ceratogyrus bechuanicus)
2. Rain Spider (Palystes sp.)
3. White Lady Spider (Leucochestris sp. :shock: )
4. Fishing Spider (Thalassius sp.)
5. Black legged Nephila (I think thats the common name...) (Nephila madagascariensis) (Monster spider, monster web :shock: )

All gaurenteed to keep you awake at night if they crawled over your face. :shock:
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Re: Spider Big 5

Unread post by Xmantis » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:43 pm

I also think your list is great ScorpionKing! :clap:

I have come across this artical and thought you guys may be interested in it :shock:

They’re big and hairy and in need of conservation and are found in the Kruger National Park (KNP) – but they have double the normal number of legs. They are baboon spiders. Kruger is home to no less than seven different species of baboon spider, including a species that was only recently discovered by scientists and given its official name of Ceratogyrus paulseni last year.

The new species of baboon spider was discovered in a clearing in the mopane-acacia woodland near Letaba and has not yet been found anywhere else in Kruger, or the rest of the world. Despite the fact that the Kruger’s known species of baboon spider come from four different genera, they are hard for a layman to tell apart.

The newly discovered species does, however, have the one characteristic that allows it to be told apart from the other genera – it has a distinctive ‘horn’ on its back, which it shares with the more common horned baboon spider. The new baboon spider was first spotted during a 2003 spider survey of Kruger that forms part of the ongoing South African National Survey of Arachnids.


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