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Re: Driving (best route) to/from Kruger

Unread post by linnfrompotch » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:31 pm

Hi there

We are planning to drive via Polokwane and Giyani to Punda Maria gate on 26 December. We are four ladies traveling and i want to confirm that this will be the best and a safe route for us.

It will be the first time that we use this route to Kruger.

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Re: Driving (best route) to/from Kruger

Unread post by Hippotragus » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:13 pm

Hi linnfrompotch.

I have done that route several times - once with 2 other ladies and a few times with hubby. We have never had any problems. Obviously, don't invite trouble - keep car doors locked, only stop in places that look safe etc. We have filled up at a petrol station in Giyani with no problems.

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Joburg to Orpen, Kruger

Unread post by Gazmando » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:25 pm

Hi
I will be driving form Jo'burg to Kruger in late January 2017. My flight into Jo'burg doesn't land until midday and once I've sorted the car hire out it may well be 13.30 before we set off, so I thought it would be best to do the journey in two parts, rather than rushing to Orpen and chancing making it before the gate shuts.
So I was wondering if anybody had any advice regarding where to stop overnight middway or maybe three-quarters of the way to Kruger. It would enable us to have a leisurely drive, stopping for dinner and a nights sleep before setting off bright and early to Orpen gate.
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Re: Joburg to Orpen, Kruger

Unread post by chirinda » Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:19 pm

There is a small town called Dullstroom on the R540 road which goes north from the N4 main highway leading towards southern Kruger. It is a holiday town in a very pretty area, and there is lots of accommodation there. You would then continue north on the R540, join up with the R36 which takes you through beautiful scenery and down the escarpment to Hoedspruit and Orpen gate.

Dullstroom is about a three hour drive from OR Tambo airport, probably a bit more than half way.

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Re: Driving (best route) to/from Kruger

Unread post by Yoda » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:39 pm

I will be travelling to southern Kruger on Monday 14 November
N12 Germiston to Witbank and then N4 to Neslpruit and Melalane

I have heard there is a Stop and Go near Waterval Bo with a waiting time of approx 20 mins.

Should I rather just wait at the stop and go?
Or go Schoemanskloof?
How much further is that route?
Also, I believe that there are not many passing places and one can get stuck behind mine trucks?
So maybe just as frustrating?

I am also planning on leaving Jhb around 7am.
So maybe a bit of traffic until after Germiston, and then not much as a weekday and not school holidays?

Any input appreciated.
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Re: Driving (best route) to/from Kruger

Unread post by elpaco » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:57 pm

I have driven the N4 via Waterval Boven last Tuesday.
There are 2 stops and go at the moment. I missed both green light by a minute and had to wait. I would say 25-30 minutes total.
I drove the road N4 via Shoemanskloof in April but didn't like it too much, so prefered to wait this time.
Of course if the light is green when you reach the stop and go, you can drive through so your waiting time is a matter of luck ....
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Re: Driving (best route) to/from Kruger

Unread post by Yoda » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:25 pm

Hippotragus wrote:I beg to differ, elpaco! I always go Schoemanskloof - very pretty and plenty of passing points. Just watch the speed limit - some 100 km/hr and some 120 km/hr. - I got a fine in August and still don't remember actually seeing a camera!!

As far as I know, the distance on "old" N4 and the "new" Schoemanskloof N4 are just about the same.


Thanks Hippotragus :thumbs_up:

In that case, it is a "no-brainer". I will go the Schoemanskloof route.
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Re: Driving (best route) to/from Kruger

Unread post by Yoda » Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:19 pm

Hippotragus wrote:Yoda - I forgot to mention that at the moment there are huge signs advising you to go Schoemanskloof because of the roadworks. As I said, I always go that way - roadworks or not.

Have a great trip.

I think I know roughly where the turnoff is.
It's not far after "Millies" as you come down the hill?
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Re: Driving (best route) to/from Kruger

Unread post by Yoda » Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:47 am

Hippotragus wrote:It's after the toll gate and is very well sign posted!

Excellent. Thanks :thumbs_up:
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Re: Driving (best route) to/from Kruger

Unread post by Yoda » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:59 am

So I decided to use the Schoemans Kloof route.
Going to Kruger it was ok, minimal traffic and a pleasure to drive.

Coming home - another story :evil:
It was a Saturday and loads of trucks were using the route. At one point I got stuck behind a train of 5 trucks. The front one was litterally doing 20km/h. At the first passing point, the truck behind him decided he had to pass, but he was only doing about 30km/h.
And so on.
Instead of them letting a massive queue of cars pass (must have been at least 50 cars behind me) , they were all over taking each other. Or attempting to.
I eventually got past just before the N4 again, but it must have added at least 45 mins to my journey.
Anyhow, not much I could have done about it
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Re: Driving (best route) to/from Kruger

Unread post by kallis1786 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:55 am

Good Morning Everyone :gflower: :k

I need some help planning my route to Satara on the 24th of December.

I am booked in at Satara, and according to the time I am planning to leave home will be around 12:30 to 13:00 so either I can reach Phalaborwa Gate at 15:00 and enter from there and drive to Satara which the minimum time I think its 3 hours so I reach Satara around 18:00 which is tempting me because I get to be in the Park earlier, but am really scared for time.

The other option is I drive to Orpen Gate in which case I'll be arriving at the gate around 16:00 to 16:30, but that could mean that I have a more relaxing drive to Satara.

But now I am totally confused on which would be a better option :think: :think: :think:

What would you all do?

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Re: Driving (best route) to/from Kruger

Unread post by Mischief » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:58 am

I agree with Nkulu...head down to Orpen and enjoy a more relaxing drive to Satara.Such great waterholes on that road any way and an early evening stop at Nsemani will definitely produce some animal sightings.
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Driving from Phalaborwa to Pont Drift?

Unread post by Schoemanskloof » Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:39 pm

Good morning all.
We are going to be visiting Kruger in late August 2017, flying into Skukuza and renting cars there. We will be staying in Skukuza for two nights, then Letaba for one, and then Bateleur for three nights. We will be leaving the park in the north (Phalaborwa or Punda Maria?), as we head to the Pont Drift border-crossing, as we are spending a few nights at Mashatu.

What are the road-conditions like on that route between Phalaborwa and Pont Drift? How long should it take to drive?

Any guidance on what/not to do? We will be leaving our rental cars in SA, as the Mashatu vehicles will pick us up. Apparently, Avis waives the fees for this "leaving the country" excursion (at least that's per the contact at Mashatu).

We will be returning to pick up the cars and driving back to Joburg, to drop the cars off and get onto our return flights.
What are road-conditions like on that route back from Pont Drift to JNB? How long should it take to drive?

Thanks in advance!!

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Re: Driving (best route) to/from Kruger

Unread post by Hippotragus » Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:52 pm

Hi Schoemanskloof (I love the name!).

We haven't done the Pont Drift road for some time, so maybe things have changed, but when we last did it, it was a good fast tar road, with a few villages on the way.

At the border post you leave your vehicle in a secure pound right next to the police/border post. We have often done that with no problems - your vehicle is not really leaving South Africa. Once we did drive across the dry Limpopo river bed, but other times left vehicle at border post.

I can't quite remember the Pont Drift to Johannesburg time - but I guess 5-6 hours. From Polokwane you will be on highway, so fast driving with no hold ups. Just after Pretoria, you will take the R21 (also highway) the ORT airport.

I am very envious of your trip to Mashatu - we have very fond memories of that area. Enjoy Kruger too!! You will see a marked difference in landscapes between the two.
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Re: Driving (best route) to/from Kruger

Unread post by chirinda » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:47 pm

Hi Schoemanskloof,

Have a look in "Northern Parks", there is some information about getting from Kruger to Mapungubwe, and Pontdrift is just up the road.

In August 2016 we drove from Joburg to Musina and then on the R572 to Mapungubwe which was not in bad condition, although a few potholey patches but not bad potholes. There were also some potholes on the Mapungubwe to Pontdrift road and also Pontdrift to Alldays, but on the whole the roads were not bad. Of course you are going to be going a year later. People have written about the Pafuri Gate to Musina road. Why not ask questions on the Northern Parks thread about Punda Maria Gate to Louis Trichardt and then on to Alldays or Musina, and also Phalaborwa-Polokwane-Pontdrift. Those are not roads I have ever driven, but others may well be familiar with their condition.


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