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Re: Tour operator: "The rules do not apply for us".

Unread post by saraf » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:39 am

SANParks do take action, as Gerharddb noted above. We wouldn't have forum space to list everything they do. However SANParks employees cannot be everywhere at once and so they need people to report any incident of wrong-doing to them as soon as possible after the event, supplying as much information as possible. If they don't know about it, they can't do anything about it.
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Re: Tour operator: "The rules do not apply for us".

Unread post by okie » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:59 am

@Saraf -Certainly they take action ; that is if the matter is reported , with proof of course :doh: And that is to be commended :clap:
However , as you say , they cannot be everywhere at once , and they need people to report to them .
Now I do report to them . Last year during one visit , I reported ( with proof ) three incidents within three days , and I know that actions were taken :doh:
However , how many people do report ?
Maybe people do not even see such incidents , or maybe it does not bother them , and therefore it goes unreported . Or its too much trouble .
How many have you ever reported ? You do not have to answer ................
If I witnessed three incidents in three days , then surely , such incidents must be very very common within the park .
One would like to think that if they are reported ( and action taken ) , then the incidents would decrease ?

Come on , get with it . Generally people do not report it , and Sanparks staff are too busy elsewhere , so ..............

Do you really think they are in control of the situation :hmz:
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Re: Tour operator: "The rules do not apply for us".

Unread post by Grantmissy » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:31 am

I agree with Rooies that they know the rules very well; I have experienced some of them (not all) as arrogant and overconfident. This nonsense should stop where visitors – including the tour operators - think they are above the rules of the Kruger National Park. Management should post a list of the names of all the offenders in the Park for the month against the notice boards in the Camps together with the particulars of the offence and the fines/sanctions that they have got.

Agree with Saraf – keep on reporting the offenders who disrespect Kruger. Kruger should be a better place for the majority of visitors who respect the rules, the animals and nature.
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Re: Tour operator: "The rules do not apply for us".

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:30 am

I just want to add, the majority of jeep jockeys toe the line, and some have told me of sightings I have subsequently seen. It is just a few who abuse things and give the rest a bad name.
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Re: Tour operator: "The rules do not apply for us".

Unread post by NetEk » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:36 am

I'm going to play Devils Advocate. I'm going to say is pick one:

1. sanpark staff checking up on tour operators...

2. sanpark staff looking for rhino pouchers

They only have so many staff, This might be a good time to direct you to the Honory Rangers

Stop complaining and start doing. Not just a phone call but get yourself out there and help the staff....................thats what the HR are there for.......
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Re: Tour operator: "The rules do not apply for us".

Unread post by Sparrow » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:36 pm

Just my pennies worth.

The more incidents reported with PROOF the more fuel SANParks will have to enforce the rules.

One must also realize that these jockeys sometimes get tips from the passengers and the better the sighting the bigger the tip.

Maybe when these jockeys are interviewed to do this job maybe their CV`s could also be submitted to SANParks to see what training they have had in conservation. A bit tedious but could help towards recruiting the right kind of person. (somebody who loves and respects the bush like us).
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Re: Tour operator: "The rules do not apply for us".

Unread post by stephan groen » Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:54 pm

Proof should never be a per-requisite for lodging a complaint.

It will most surely always help and a complainant should attempt to get photos and everything. However the duty sits with Sanparks to investigate the complaint.
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Re: Tour operator: "The rules do not apply for us".

Unread post by Elsa » Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:39 pm

When we reported the folks with a pet exotic monkey in their car in June, we actually didn't have a pic of the animal but did take one of the car with reg # which the driver was most upset about!
Staff at Lower Sabie certainly took note and apprehended them as they were leaving Croc Bridge.
But I do think if you can get a pic of the culprit then so much better, and as they say a picture speaks a thousand words!

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Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger

Unread post by Readles » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:19 pm

I have a question regarding OSV's entering the park. I have been entering at Croc Bridge for the last 3 days. The OSV's arrive and come down the right of the road. About 15 minutes before formal gate opening time, they are let through. I just wanted to know if this is now the agreed process.

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Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger

Unread post by gmlsmit » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:27 pm

I would like to see the official reply to this. I had a similiar situation at Phabeni Jan 2015, when an OSV just rushed past and the driver went to reception expecting prvileged service. I indicated to the driver where the rear end of the que at reception was and he then joined the que.
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Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:48 pm

:popcorn:
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Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger

Unread post by Readles » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:07 pm

Just to confirm that I went in this morning at Croc Bridge as well. It was the same thing so it is not just a weekend procedure.

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Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger

Unread post by Elsa » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:19 pm

Taken from the media release on the 27th June Here

• Due to existing contractual arrangements with Open Safari Vehicles (OSVs), they have paid for the annual operating permit and are authorised to enter 15 minutes before Gate opening time to ensure fair distribution/flow of traffic.

and if you feel there are any irregularities to this system then

• Guests are encouraged to continuously provide feedback on their experience to customercare@sanparks.org.

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Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger

Unread post by Crested Val » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:23 pm

Thanks Elsa, so there we have the answer. :thumbs_up:
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Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger

Unread post by gmlsmit » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:59 pm

Now, are they allowed to jump the queue after gate opening hours?
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