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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by DotDan » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:27 pm

Yeah, it might be out of range but one thing I can say is that it ain't no African Pipit. The short tail without any white outer tail feathers rules them out.

The heavy bill can only point to either Bradfields Lark (Sabota Lark) or Large Billed Lark. Taking into consideration the range, the latter would most probably be the safer bet.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by hilda » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:45 pm

BB, I know I don't have enough knowledge to ID any of your birds, but in the quiet I am trying, and am constantly checking whether one of the experts came up with an answer, then I compare it with mine.

Could your bird #3 possibly be a Dusky Lark? That, and in a way the Large-billed Lark, are the only Larks with dark brown cheeks and ear coverts, with the central whitish spot, forming a dark 'T'-shape under white eye crescents. :hmz:

On the other hand, the range would be wrong for a Dusky Lark, which makes DotDan's Large-billed Lark a better ID. :thumbs_up:

I wish more experts will have a look here! (Not that I don't believe you DotDan, just for your support!) :D
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:11 pm

My mates Oom & Joh must have gone walkies.

I will settle for large billed lark. :wall: Long billed pipit would have increased my tally, so would dusky lark (thanks for trying Hilda :thumbs_up: ), as would a few other larks.....

Almost all the (few) pipits I have seen DD were African.
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Unread post by Bush Baptist » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:50 pm

pnm wrote:Hello to Bush Baptist - sorry I was far too rude about the Cape and its few species. I have acess to two farms here in Paarl and my lists aren't too bad actually! Join me out in Paarl one day for a trip to both farms!


LMHO! Sounds good :thumbs_up:

I know what you mean, our common birds down south here are not as exciting as those in the hinterland.

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Unread post by Lizet Grobbelaar » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:08 pm

BB, must say it looks a lot like Sabota Lark to me...

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Unread post by Bush Baptist » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:11 pm

Thanks Lizet.

Must check the Bontebok NP list again to see if they have it.
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Unread post by MxM » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:18 pm

Hi guys

Please assist me in an audit of my life list. Since I hopelessly failed the lark challenge on the ID quiz, let me start there:

Sabota lark (Karoo NP), Nov 2012
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Large-billed lark (Karoo NP), Nov 2012
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Thanks for the help

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by DotDan » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:42 pm

Hi Mxm, Just had a quick look and I think number 5 is also a Sabota Lark. (Bradfields)

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Unread post by MxM » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:24 pm

Hi DotDan

Thanks for the help. Its a pity, but think you are right. This is why I need to know though, then I can ensure that there is not a different version of that guy in my archives or I need to look for one, and the latter is always more fun :whistle:
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by wildtuinman » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:55 pm

A nice way of seperating Large-billed and Bradfield's Larks is to look at the lower mandible on the bill. If it is yellow it is the former. :wink:
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Unread post by MattAxel » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:00 pm

Yip, spot on WTM :thumbs_up: That pink looking bill and those black moustachial stripes visible in the 1st pic threw me off a bit.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by MxM » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:51 pm

Hi wildtuinman and MattAxel

Thanks for the help so far.

Are we then happy with the ID on sabota lark (thanks for the great tip wildtuinman, will certainly keep an eye out for that in future!)?

Me thinks I will rather look for simpler birds, larks are not my thing...
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by adrianp » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:33 pm

MxM wrote:Sabota lark (Karoo NP), Nov 2012 correct
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Comments above in Red :hmz:

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Unread post by Wild about cats » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:51 am

Finally started trying these out.

ID'd this as Sabota Lark, yes? Seen H1-6 KNP

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by DotDan » Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:20 am

Looks good for Sabota Lark.


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