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Re: Roller, European

Unread post by Goronta » Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:56 pm

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Unread post by Sky » Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:14 pm

Lovely pics Jan :clap: :clap:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by sarafl » Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:09 am

Hi everyone. Just returned from Kruger and clueless about some of my bird sightings as usual. Any help identifying these would be appreciated. All pictures were taken in February.

5. Near Letaba- European roller?
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Unread post by anne-marie » Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:50 am

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5. European Roller
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Re: Roller, European

Unread post by DinkyBird » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:58 pm

Saw one on the road here outside Lower Sabie on 26 Nov. Saw 3 today ... so they are 'arriving' :dance:
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Re: Roller, European

Unread post by RoelfA » Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:48 pm

Thanks everyone for the great pics.I just love these birds.Every time we pass one,I must stop and take a photo. :D :D

Taken near Satara.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Tokmino » Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:24 am

Is this a Racket-tailed Roller during moult when its spatulate tips can be missing? Why I think it may be a racket-tailed and not a European is because of the green on its nape.

It was taken in January near Pafuri.

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Unread post by Johan van Rensburg » Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:47 am

It's Euro... That brown bit you can see on the leading edge of the wing would be dark purple in RTR.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Tokmino » Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:11 pm

Johan van Rensburg wrote:It's Euro... That brown bit you can see on the leading edge of the wing would be dark purple in RTR.


Thanks, Johan. I was hoping it was a RTR as it would be a lifer for me. :(
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:56 pm

Not sure if anyone really reads up on their posts in this topic long after the time, but for what it is worth.

There are two subspecies of European Roller that visits SA in the southern summer:

garrulus: Eastern Europe to Siberia.
semenowi: Iraq and Iran to Kazakstan and China.

If I remember correctly garrulus shows more blue than the more overall dull-coloured(overall dirtier appearance) semenowi.

The bird here seems to be of the garrulus sp. Both do occur in Kruger during our summer.

It actually makes for a really nice past time driving around Kruger id'ing which of them comes from Siberia and which comes from Kazakstan. Try it, it is loads of fun. :thumbs_up:

Tokmino wrote:Is this a Racket-tailed Roller during moult when its spatulate tips can be missing? Why I think it may be a racket-tailed and not a European is because of the green on its nape.

It was taken in January near Pafuri.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Crested Val » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:15 pm

Thanks for that wiltuinman...............that was a question that has puzzled me for years. :clap: :clap:

I used ti think "Why to some European Rollers look different to others"?

Now I know...there are 2 different species!!! :thumbs_up:

Very interesting!!! :clap: :clap:

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by hilda » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:22 pm

wildtuinman wrote:There are two subspecies of European Roller that visits SA in the southern summer:

garrulus: Eastern Europe to Siberia.
semenowi: Iraq and Iran to Kazakstan and China.

If I remember correctly garrulus shows more blue than the more overall dull-coloured(overall dirtier appearance) semenowi.

The bird here seems to be of the garrulus sp. Both do occur in Kruger during our summer.

It actually makes for a really nice past time driving around Kruger id'ing which of them comes from Siberia and which comes from Kazakstan. Try it, it is loads of fun.


Wildtuinman! Wow! Thank you for this information! Like Val, I also often thought some of those European Rollers look paler than others! But never thought it could have been two different species! I'll definitely make a point of trying to distinguish between the two species in future! Thanks again! :clap: :clap:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by wildtuinman » Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:04 am

Crested Val wrote:Thanks for that wiltuinman...............that was a question that has puzzled me for years. :clap: :clap:

I used ti think "Why to some European Rollers look different to others"?

Now I know...there are 2 different species!!! :thumbs_up:

Very interesting!!! :clap: :clap:


Wonder which this one is?


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Hi CrestedVal, I would go for garrulus on your bird. It is a very nice blue colour. Siberia = icy = blue. ;-)
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