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Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Maxwell » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:24 am

Coming in late,
Probably, Juv Bataleur. Not keen on the bill.
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Unread post by Magic Guarri » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:04 pm

Good evening everyone!
I also have problems to identification this beautiful eagle!!

I am sure, someone can help me? :D

We saw that eagle with 3 others on the Biyamiti private road on that kill 2 weeks ago! He was huge and a real beautiful bird!!!!

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by ross hawkins » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:17 pm

Its a Bateleur, but it looks like its melanistic phase.
Meaning lacking any lighter color. Beautiful bird

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Unread post by MattAxel » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:25 pm

Yip a melanistic Bateleur. Very cool.

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Unread post by Maxwell » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:26 pm

Great picture. It's a Bateleur and I did not even know they had a Melanistic phase.
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Unread post by davejenny » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:53 pm

Maxwell wrote:Great picture. It's a Bateleur and I did not even know they had a Melanistic phase.


Neither did I - beautiful bird

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Unread post by anne-marie » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:01 pm

it's a magnifcent Bateleur... strange to see one only one color
very beautiful :clap:
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Unread post by annapangolin » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:04 pm

Hello lovely eagle experts,

I'm going to kick myself when everyone tells me what this is. Seen yesterday near Mlondozi picnic spot- sitting out in the open.

It's the bare legs that have me a bit confused. It also has yellowy eyes.... Closest I can come is a Lesser Spotted Eagle, but it's not quite right. Walhberg's? Tawny even? But those bare legs...? And the wings come down much further than its tail feathers.

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Unread post by Niall » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:12 pm

Immature Bateleur - the wings being longer than the tail the main clue, which you had all along...

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Unread post by annapangolin » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:16 pm

Thanks Niall,

I never even would have went in that direction with the yellow beak :slap: . Doesn't look much like other Juv Bateleurs!

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Unread post by Niall » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:20 pm

It's probably nearing adulthood, the legs also look quite yellow.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by annapangolin » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:24 pm

I really am kicking myself! Of all the eagles I looked at, Bateleur never crossed my mind and this darn bird has been bugging me all day. I've been searching the internet and looking through all my books. Sure enough, it's unmistakable now that I look at it.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by SouthernWatcher » Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:48 pm

Moose wrote:Hello lovely eagle experts,

I'm going to kick myself when everyone tells me what this is. Seen yesterday near Mlondozi picnic spot- sitting out in the open.

It's the bare legs that have me a bit confused. It also has yellowy eyes.... Closest I can come is a Lesser Spotted Eagle, but it's not quite right. Walhberg's? Tawny even? But those bare legs...? And the wings come down much further than its tail feathers.

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Heheheheheheee ........ awesome photos Moose. Just looking at them though reminds me of a trip I took to Kruger with a friend of mine quite a few years ago. We were still "ducklings" in the twitcher game and had pulled up to a tree and seen an immature Bateleur just like the one in your photos. Back then we were just as stumped as you were on first seeing the bird. We were pouring over every reference book we had in our possession but just couldn't identify the raptor.

As we were still discussing the matter , a bakkie roared up next to our vehicle and the man saw us peering at the bird. He instantly , and without even using his binoculars to double check himself shouted at us , "Bruinslangarend !!" and sped off before we could even raise half an objection or ask him how he got to that conclusion.

After further investigation we decided that with no tail (in fact a very short tail) and no bright yellow eye , that it couldn’t be a "Bruinslangarend !!” and was in fact an immature Bateleur. Since that day , I will never misidentify an immature Bateleur ever again and will always affectionately and jokingly of course , refer to immature Bateleurs as "Bruinslangarend !!” :D :mrgreen: :D

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Bobbi Jane » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:20 pm

Please confirm ID. I think it is a Tawny Eagle? (Lightish vent feathers??)
Pic taken May near Satara.
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Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by DotDan » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:42 pm

Hi Bobbi, that is a Juv Bateleur.. The best way to ID it in the field is by looking for that short tail.


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