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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by hilda » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:43 am

I agree with Ruddy Turnstone for the first picture gatita. :thumbs_up:

As far as the Terns are concerned, rather wait for an expert! :D
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by johanclassen » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:27 pm

Hi All, This is the best image of 3 taken by me in 2015 between Skukuza and Malelane. Now going through my avian
files I looked at this again and the short stout bill confuses me. Is this a Honeyguide and if so a Palid Honeyguide?? :)
Please I will appreciate input from our bird experts :shock:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:52 am

The distribution of the Pallid Honeyguide does not include SA. This is a Lesser Honeyguide

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by gatita » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:36 am

thank you umtali and Hilda :gflower:

it seems that the experts are on holiday :(

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are those in the back:
antarctic tern on the right? bright red legs and bill, location and time of the year (Cape Recife 01.06.17), darker grey?
roseate tern on the left and the second one from the right? pale grey upperparts, pink wash to breast, long white outer-tail feathers?
any ideas about the last one? maybe common tern?


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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Albert » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:33 am

johanclassen wrote:Hi All, This is the best image of 3 taken by me in 2015 between Skukuza and Malelane. Now going through my avian
files I looked at this again and the short stout bill confuses me. Is this a Honeyguide and if so a Palid Honeyguide?? :)
Please I will appreciate input from our bird experts :shock:


Hi Johan,
Not an expert in the least, but it looks like a Lesser Honeyguide. It's way out of range for Pallid as far as I can see, and the head appears grey rather than greenish, and it does appear as if the dark malar stripe is there. Also, the white outer tail feathers looks like a Lesser.
My 2 cents worth..

Edit: Apologies Karin, missed your reply....so yes, I agree with Karin!
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by johanclassen » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:38 pm

My thanks to Karin Mitton and Albert for responding to my question regarding the Honeyguide.
The Palid has been recorded in Dambo Mozamb and Mutare in Zimbabwe which is only a "wing fly" away from the Kruger :D
As I said, the bill looked so short and stubby , from there the question.
But all the other pointers makes sense. Thanks again :clap:
A Lesser it is. :thumbs_up:

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by wildtuinman » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:58 am

Do you perhaps have a more cropped photo of the terns?

gatita wrote:thank you umtali and Hilda :gflower:

it seems that the experts are on holiday :(

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are those in the back:
antarctic tern on the right? bright red legs and bill, location and time of the year (Cape Recife 01.06.17), darker grey?
roseate tern on the left and the second one from the right? pale grey upperparts, pink wash to breast, long white outer-tail feathers?
any ideas about the last one? maybe common tern?


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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by gatita » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:17 am

wildtuinman wrote:Do you perhaps have a more cropped photo of the terns?


I am afraid that it is already cropped as much as possible :(

here is another pic

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these were among the swift terns as well. I think that they could be the same species

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by wildtuinman » Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:40 am

Tern id'ing is a nightmare at the best of times. To try and id them from long range shots is almost just near impossible.

I can definitely make out Swift Terns :lol: , but the others just doesn't show enough from these photos for me to make an id.

Common Tern normally shows a dark horisontal bar on the shoulder, if that helps in any case.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by gatita » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:35 am

thank you WTM :gflower:


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