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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Guinea Pig » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:08 am

:hmz: We've never seen them in Vanderbijlpark before but it's well within range, I notice.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:17 am

Guinea Pig wrote::hmz: We've never seen them in Vanderbijlpark before but it's well within range, I notice.


I've been thinking about the Southern Red Bishop female as well. She also has an eyebrow, but the female is a rather "chunky" bird - your birds looks more "slender"..
I agree with you - when weavers are in transitional plumage, it drives me crazy, and I just stop looking at them all together..

Hopefully one of the experts will jump in here.

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Unread post by Guinea Pig » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:21 am

Karin Mitton wrote:
I agree with you - when weavers are in transitional plumage, it drives me crazy, and I just stop looking at them all together..



As a friend said about these two - "Normally when I see birds like this I quickly look the other way and pretend I did not see them." :lol:

I always wait and see what "hatches" eventually.
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Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:42 am

I think it is a Widowbird.
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Unread post by Guinea Pig » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:47 am

I was playing in the vicinity of the right ball park on my Facebook page then!! :o This was my post yesterday:

"I'm stumped. These two birds have been around the feeder this afternoon. Obviously non-breeding males of something but what something I can't figure out. I assumed Red Bishops but there is one around that I photographed a few days ago and it was there with them. It acts completely different to these two and these are larger than the bishop. Can these be Long-tailed Paradise whydahs in a garden?"
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Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:57 am

I am also leaning towards the Long-tailed part, but not the Whydah part. :D
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Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:59 am

Any idea who rung your Red Bishop, by the way?
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Unread post by Guinea Pig » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:03 am

I forgot to turn the page of my SASOL one more time. :lol:

wildtuinman wrote:Any idea who rung your Red Bishop, by the way?


No idea. A lot of the garden birds around are ringed with these silver ones. I've been threatening to catch one of them to get to the number on the ring. :P
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Unread post by Guinea Pig » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:15 pm

wildtuinman wrote:I think it is a Widowbird.


I'm starting to lean towards a Red-collared widowbird with the mystery dinner guests. They return every day, male and female and no matter how closely I watch them, I don't see the red I would expect to see on the shoulder of the male and the yellow facial markings are very bright. This photo of him was made this afternoon.

ImageIMG_6923 by Santie Quanjer, on Flickr

ImageIMG_6911 by Santie Quanjer, on Flickr

This is what I think is the female. They always arrive together.

ImageIMG_6893 by Santie Quanjer, on Flickr
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Crested Val » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:47 am

This is not an ID as such, but I would appreciate some advice please.

Somone posted on the Facebook Kruger page, a photo of a Crimson Breasted Shrike.

I initially posted back "Not seen in Kruger" but to cover myself looked up the Kruger list.
It does in fact list it as a vagrant or erratic visitor.

I just wondered whether it is at all likely that this person did see one in Kruger? He says he has also seen in KTP (as have I) and I suspect maybe the photo he posted was in fact taken in KTP.

I told him I would ask the bird experts on the SP forums what they thought.

Any info would be welcome - thanks.
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Unread post by DotDan » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:55 am

I really can't remember, if ever, seeing a record in the last 10 years since I started birding of a CB Shrike in KNP. Possibly way up north in the Makuleke area as a vagrant but highly unlikely for the rest of KNP.

I did go to that post and from what I can see, the person resides in Botswana and works in Moremi NR which is where you will find a lot of Crimson Breasted Shrikes.

My advice, just leave it. :D

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Unread post by Crested Val » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:13 pm

Thanks for that info DotDan, I will turn off notifications for the post now. :thumbs_up:

One other person had said not Kruger last time I looked!!! :thumbs_up:
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Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:22 am

Crimson-breasted Shrike has indeed been recorded in the Maluleke area of Kruger as well as in Pafuri. ;-)
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Snoobab » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:38 am

The area around The Outpost Camp and towards Pafuri Gate is where they have been seen also.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by umtali1 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:55 pm

Help please!!
Are these Baillon's crakes? They were seen near the junction of the S65 and H1-1 on August 26th this year.
I can not think what else they could be - all other crakes shouldn't be around or are very rare.

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