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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by Philip1 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:02 am

:) The body and legs look like a Longclaw, but the body not colourful enough. :hmz: :think:
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by salamanda » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:04 am

Whilst you are looking at my possible Longclaw above, please could you help with the bird below as well. Is it a Levaillant's Cisticola? Or . . .?

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Unread post by arks » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:15 pm

Where and when did you see it, salamanda?
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by salamanda » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:26 pm

Oh, sorry Arks, same place as the other one - iMfolozi in KZN this September.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by salamanda » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:02 pm

salamanda wrote:Is this bird a Longclaw? If it is, there is indication of an orange(?) [or even rosy :wink: ] throat but no colouring across the breast. can someone please help with the ID? it was seen in iMfolozi, KZN, this month.

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Unread post by salamanda » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:03 pm

salamanda wrote:Whilst you are looking at my possible Longclaw above, please could you help with the bird below as well. Is it a Levaillant's Cisticola? Or . . .?

Many thanks.

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Unread post by DotDan » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:00 pm

If I would guess then I would probably go for Rattling Cisticola. The bill looks quite heavy and the black marks on the under tail is a good sign.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by DotDan » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:27 pm

About the Longclaw. Difficult one, but I would reckon any of the Longclaw's would probably show some color on the underparts. Unfortunately I cannot find too many examples of Juvie Longclaw's so I cannot rule out Longclaw :lol:

I dunno :|

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Unread post by salamanda » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:38 pm

Many thanks DD. :D Would anyone else like to weigh in on the possible Longclaw?

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by wildtuinman » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:59 am

Hi Salamanda,

I battle to make out detail on the 2 photos. Could you possibly mail me higher resolution photos to wildtuinman@yahoo.com?

All I can say at this stage is: Why is the "Longclaw" not a Pipit?
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by salamanda » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:18 am

Hi WTM. Many thanks. I will sent you the originals, but they are very far away and I cropped the pics quite a bit. You will probably have better cropping tools however . . . . Re the Longclaw/Pipit query: the only reason I had was that colouring beneath the throat of the bird in question. I don't know much about the development of colour in imm. Longclaws (actually, nothing :D ) so I took a stab at random.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by wildtuinman » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:52 am

Hi Salamanda,

I had a look at your photos you mailed me, thank you very much.
I think you are correct on the Longclaw call. the bill certainly does not fit that of a pipit. Most likely a Cape Longclaw as the habitat is incorrect for Rosy-throated.

And I think Daan is correct with the Rattling Cisticola call.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by salamanda » Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:32 pm

Thank you so much WTM. Your help and that of DD much appreciated.


I don't know if you guys that help so willingly with IDs realise how much this is appreciated by those of us who are still learning, but it is a big thing, and a real excitement sometimes (new ticks, for example) to get this help, so thanks to you all. :gflower: I dare not name you as I shall inadvertently leave someone out, but you know who you are! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by arks » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:09 pm

salamanda wrote:I don't know if you guys that help so willingly with IDs realise how much this is appreciated by those of us who are still learning, but it is a big thing, and a real excitement sometimes (new ticks, for example) to get this help, so thanks to you all. :gflower: I dare not name you as I shall inadvertently leave someone out, but you know who you are! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I agree with all that salamanda wrote :gflower: I read the ID threads religiously because I'm always learning something new, as with this longclaw/pipit ... fascinating!

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:01 pm

salamanda wrote:Thank you so much WTM. Your help and that of DD much appreciated.


I don't know if you guys that help so willingly with IDs realise how much this is appreciated by those of us who are still learning, but it is a big thing, and a real excitement sometimes (new ticks, for example) to get this help, so thanks to you all. :gflower: I dare not name you as I shall inadvertently leave someone out, but you know who you are! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:



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