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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:44 am

I've tried to zoom into your photos, but they become to grainy to get any clear view. While Cape vultures are normally "paler" than white-backed vultures, I would be hesitant to use this as the only way to ID the birds in these photos. Light conditions can have a big impact on how the colour appears - as I have recently experienced.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by hilda » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:33 am

I agree with Karin, very difficult to make a positive ID Yoda.

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Unread post by Yoda » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:44 pm

I tried uploading a higher resolution photo, but it came out the same size on the screen :hmz:
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by salamanda » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:20 pm

Yoda wrote:I tried uploading a higher resolution photo, but it came out the same size on the screen :hmz:


It will come out the same size Yoda, but it might be easier to enlarge and therefore get a better look at the vultures.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Kaapsedraai » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:26 am

Yoda wrote:I saw these Vultures on the H4-1, just north of Satara.
They were quite a way from the road.

I make out Lapped faced and White Backed.

Are the paler ones Cape Vultures?

yoda, you raised a question I never thought of or was alert to, hence went back to all my vulture sightings and did see some paler ones amongst the White-backed ones.
Comparing them to the Bird book ID's, it appears that they are from the same species - could it be then that 'juveniles' be lighter in colour. :hmz:

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Yoda » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:04 am

Kaapsedraai,

A friend of mine who is good with bird ID came past my place last night and I showed him these photos.
He agrees with your ID that they are all Whitebacked
And I was hoping they may be Cape :roll:
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:15 pm

Yoda wrote:Kaapsedraai,

A friend of mine who is good with bird ID came past my place last night and I showed him these photos.
He agrees with your ID that they are all Whitebacked
And I was hoping they may be Cape :roll:


Glad to hear you could get someone to assist with the ID!
It is always great to get the confirmation, even if it is not what you wanted to hear!

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Unread post by Johan van Rensburg » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:11 pm

Kaapsedraai wrote:White-backed ... 'juveniles' be lighter in colour.


The juveniles are the dark ones. WBCs become paler with age.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Yoda » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:12 pm

Johan van Rensburg wrote:
Kaapsedraai wrote:White-backed ... 'juveniles' be lighter in colour.


The juveniles are the dark ones. WBCs become paler with age.

JvR, Thanks for the info

I guess Cape is still on my list to see.
They have proven to be elusive.

Is there an area in Kruger where they are often seen??
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Kaapsedraai » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:37 pm

Johan van Rensburg wrote:
Kaapsedraai wrote:White-backed ... 'juveniles' be lighter in colour.


The juveniles are the dark ones. WBCs become paler with age.

Thank you, Johan. :thumbs_up:
I was not sure about the colours, but you have taught me something. :D

Wonderful discussion on this one, once again, yoda. :thumbs_up:
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:39 pm

Yoda wrote:Is there an area in Kruger where they are often seen??


I've seen them at Tshokwane and near Crocodile bridge


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