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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by wildtuinman » Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:29 am

Gary-sp wrote:Eagle or kite? Taken at KTP June
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Eagle would be my call with that big bill.

More specific Tawny Eagle.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by wildtuinman » Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:45 am

gatita wrote:thank you Karin, arks and WTM :gflower:

wildtuinman wrote:1. Agree with Gymnogene and Kite.
2. Also lean towards a Wahlberg's
3. So tough. Do you have more photos?
4. Looks like there are dark centres on the covers which would point to Cape Vulture. Any more photos of this one?


more pics of no. 3

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unfortunaltely I don't have many pics of no. 4. Here is another one (cropped and brightened)

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I am happy with Wahlberg's Eagle. The head is quite round, but the bill and everything else points to Wahlberg's.

The Vulture is a tough one.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by weirdNumber » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:03 pm

wildtuinman wrote:
weirdNumber wrote:Little Sparrowhawk? Marakele NP end of May.

Not a great picture but it was a very fleeting glimpse as it flew through woodland, landed and flew again.
I thought Little Sparrowhawk because of the white rump and slight build.



Another Little Sparrowhawk? Mapungubwe NP beginning of June.



Exceptionally difficult, weirdNumber.

The first one could also be a Shikra.
The second one is a toss up between a young Shikra and a young Gabar. The legs seem orange, which would point to Gabar. Do you have any other photos of these birds?


No more pictures of the first picture unfortunately wildtuinman. It was seen from foot. It flew low and fast through dense trees, the kind of behaviour exhibited by a Sparrowhawk or a Goshawk here in the UK.

These are a few more of the second, unfortunately I don't have any different angles and it was silhouetted against the sky with a low evening sun so they are probably no help at all for a definitive ID. I have done my best to bring out the details but they were distant and poorly exposed against the sky.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Gary-sp » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:29 am

Thanks for your help so far.

A pair of falcons here I think. Amur, hobby ? Taken at KTP in June.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by weirdNumber » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:47 am

Gary-sp wrote:Thanks for your help so far.

A pair of falcons here I think. Amur, hobby ? Taken at KTP in June.
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I would say it's between Peregrine and Lanner Falcon.

They look more slight than Peregrine in the photos although size is always difficult to judge in pictures, there seems to be a hint of a rufous cap, although again it's hard to see. Taking distribution into account as well and I would say that it is a Juvenile Lanner Falcon.

Anyone more knowledgeable have any thoughts?

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by hilda » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:38 pm

The first three photos could be an immature Gabar Goshawk and the 2nd set of three photos an immature Lanner Falcon weirdNumber. But let's wait for an expert's opinion. :thumbs_up:
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:51 am

Yeah, I am happy with Gabar and Lanner. :thumbs_up:
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:17 am

Lanner!
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by gannet » Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:53 pm

I'm battling with some ID's :hmz: - appreciate any assistance

3371 + 3374 a juvenile Bateleur?
3395 + 3396 maybe a Booted Eagle?

Thanks, Ian
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by arks » Sat Aug 20, 2016 11:33 am

Your first bird is indeed a juvenile bataleur :thumbs_up: but I've no idea about your second bird. Where did you see these birds? That might help with the ID.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by gannet » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:32 pm

Thanks @arks
- juv. Bateleur, that's great :D - seen along Auob River KTP (Urikaruus area) 03 August
- second bird maybe be a juv. Tawny Eagle :hmz: - seen along Nossob River KTP (between Kij Kij + Rooiputs) 11 August

Much appreciated, Ian

- third bird for confirmation: Black-shouldered Kite (juv.) also seen along Auob River KTP (Urikaruus area)
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by arks » Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:26 pm

Yes on blackshouldered kite :thumbs_up:
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by gannet » Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:51 pm

@arks - thanks for the Black-shouldered Kite confirmation
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by wingman » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:24 pm

The other eagle appears to be a sub adult tawny.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by gannet » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:50 pm

wingman - thanks for the Tawny confirmation, much appreciated :D
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