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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by naomi c » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:53 pm

Thanks DotDan! :thumbs_up:

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by charbel » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:06 pm

Hi all,
we saw this raptor flying over H14, January 10th 2011. Could you help me with the ID?

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:14 pm

Not a great pic charbel, but my first instinct is a dark chanting goshawk.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by charbel » Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:38 am

Dear Bush Baptist,
Yes, the pic was not good. Cropped from a far away photo. Thanks for the tentative ID.
Any other opinions on this?

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by wingman » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:10 pm

my suspicion as well but not sure.
here is another youngster taken near hoedspruit same time of year

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Unread post by Bush Baptist » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:14 pm

Dark chanting goshawk juvenile.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by wingman » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:19 pm

my thoughts too but would rather check thankyou for the help

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Re: Goshawk, Dark Chanting

Unread post by norms » Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:10 am

Nice sighting of a juvenile Dark Chanting Goshawk - S114 Kruger National Park.

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Re: Goshawk, Dark Chanting

Unread post by Ladybirder » Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:27 pm

Stunning pictures Norms :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Elsa » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:02 pm

Do you agree that this is a Juv Gabar Goshawk seen in Kruger in Feb?
I am always a bit confused between that and a Dark Chanting Goshawk? :doh:


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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:26 am

Elsa wrote:Do you agree that this is a Juv Gabar Goshawk seen in Kruger in Feb?
I am always a bit confused between that and a Dark Chanting Goshawk? :doh:


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Hi Elsa, yes Dark Chanting Goshawk. The GISS of this bird is very much different from that of the Gabar and the Gabar is also much smaller.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Elsa » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:39 pm

Thanks WTM for your help with the ID of my DCG! :clap:
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Garyd73 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:10 pm

I have about 6 photos from my collection I cannot identify at the moment if anyone is able to help with please. I will jsut put 2 here for now, they were both spotted between P'Kop and Olifants in September 2014.

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KNP - Sept 2013 - 5 Days
KNP - Sept 2014 - 7 Days
KNP - April 2015 - 7 Days
KNP - October 2015 - 10 Days
KNP - May 2016 - 10 Days

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Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by DotDan » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:42 am

Hi Gary

With your first photo. It is a Goshawk, but which one? :)

This is a good photo to show the difference between the two that can be confused IE Dark Chanting Goshawk and Gabar Goshawk.

There is a big size difference between the two, but on photos that is difficult to judge.

So, to demonstrate a quick way to separate the two species in the field, here is a photo of a Gabar Goshawk:

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Notice the pale, white rump.

Here is your photo:
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Notice the rump is barred all the way down.

Anyway, thought I would share that little info with everybody. It is a quick way to ID these guys in the field if you are not too familiar with their size differences. :thumbs_up:

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Garyd73 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:37 pm

DotDan that is an amazing bit of information thank you, I certainly couldn't tell the difference but that has given me something got keep an eye out for going forward thank you. :clap: :clap:
KNP - Sept 2013 - 5 Days
KNP - Sept 2014 - 7 Days
KNP - April 2015 - 7 Days
KNP - October 2015 - 10 Days
KNP - May 2016 - 10 Days


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