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Unread post by gwendolen » Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:09 pm

Hi Fatcat,

There aren't any pics of the campsite yet. It looks like you might be the first forumite to visit, so please take lost of pics to share with us. :D
On the Mapungubwe page I found a mammal list and Birding in Mapungubwe. The map doesn't show the new campsite [I couldn't find it], but I'm sure you'll get one at the gate when you check in.

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Unread post by JoelR » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:49 pm

Totally forgot to take decent pix during our recent stay at Mazhou. Unforgivable obviously, but we were too busy enjoying ourselves. :D

Here are some ok shots to give an idea...

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The facilities

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Our camp

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The treetop walk in the eastern section of the park - Limpopo river bed on the background

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The Shashe river is the border between Botswana and Zimbabwe and enters the Limpopo at the Confluence - a highlight of any Mapungubwe visit

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Limpopo Forest - Nearby restaurants / caterers

Unread post by Birding Africa » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:05 pm

Hi there,

We have a group of 9 staying at the Limpopo Forest tented accommodation and don't want to have to cook for them!! Can anybody recommend any restaurants or caterers within 100km of the area?

Thanks so much for any advice you can give me.

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Unread post by dianne » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:12 pm

Hi

Alldays and Musina are both about 70k's aways...Alldays has a famous pub and Musina has the usual chain restaurants etc...we'll see if any of the other forum membes have suggestions-it's a gorgeous camp though-you should have a wonderful time!

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Unread post by JoelR » Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:29 pm

The park itself uses caterers for functions and sometimes parks staff do the catering at Tshugulu lodge. I am sure the tourism manager (Norman Mudau) can help you - either with arrangements for your group or with useful tips!

Just ask for him at the Mapungubwe reception: 015-5342014.

Have fun counting Tropical Boubous :!: :D

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Maloutswa game hide / Limpopo Forest Tented Camp with Sedan

Unread post by eladn » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:44 pm

Hi,

Does anybody know if the The Limpopo Forest Tented Camp
and especially the Maloutswa game hide are accessible with a regular 2X4 sedan vehicle?

Thanks,

Elad.

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Unread post by dianne » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:24 pm

Hi

It is doable -my parents were there recently in a low slung merc :-) However you need to take it gently as there are corrugations and the car may be a bit "shook up"... The park says there are about 35 kilometres accessible by normal sedan-for the rest you need a high clearance vehicle (not necessarily a 4x4). Well worth it though...will see if I can find out a little more. You should also manage the confluence and the tree top walk as well...


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Mapungubwe advice needed.

Unread post by timbo » Mon May 14, 2007 6:38 am

Hey me and my family are going to Mapungubwe in august and needed some questions answered:

1) Is Loekwe camp nice.

2) How long will it take us to drive from Loekwe to Shingwedzi if we enter the park at pafuri gate.
I try my best and that's what matters I hope.

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Re: Mapungubwe advice needed.

Unread post by JoelR » Tue May 15, 2007 9:30 am

Hey timbo - how great that you´re going to discover Mapungubwe too :)

timbo wrote:Hey going to Mapungubwe in august what predator can i see.

There are lions in the eastern AND (since recently) in the western section. They have never been introduced but moved in from Botswana, across the Limpopo river. They have settled and seem to be very happily living on a diet of eland, gemsbok, blue wildebeest and burchell´s zebra.
Apart from that there are many leopards and plenty hyena - I would recomend to do a nightdrive to have the biggest chance of seeing them. (Last time I did a nightdrive I saw an aardvark, which is first prize off course :wink: ).
In the open areas of the western section you´ll be able to see black-backed jackals during daytime.

timbo wrote:1) Is Loekwe camp nice.

It´s a great, atmospheric camp, timbo. It´s not fenced but totally ´guarded´by beautiful sandstone ridges. From your chalet you´d be able to spot kudu, klipspringer, verreaux´s eagle and maybe more. It´s a good base to explore the park!

timbo wrote:2) How long will it take us to drive from Loekwe to Shingwedzi if we enter the park at pafuri gate.

Leokwe - maingate (0h30)
maingate - Pafuri (2h30)
Pafuri-Shingwedzi (2h30)
So 5 and a half hours will do if you drive 40 in Mapungubwe, 120 on the provincial roads and 50 in Kruger. I´d take at least an extra hour for fuel, coffee and off course game viewing :!:

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Re: Mapungubwe advice needed.

Unread post by Jose » Tue May 15, 2007 9:27 pm

Gosh... I wanna go back there too!! :mrgreen:
JoelR wrote:<...>
Leokwe - maingate (0h30)
maingate - Pafuri (2h30)
Pafuri-Shingwedzi (2h30)
So 5 and a half hours will do if you drive 40 in Mapungubwe, 120 on the provincial roads and 50 in Kruger. I´d take at least an extra hour for fuel, coffee and off course game viewing :!:

A comment, if I may, Joel? In theory your times are 100% correct, but when I drove the exact same stretch a few years ago, the numbers came out slightly different...

Agree, 120 on the provincial road is doable, just be aware of numerous baboon troops on and near the road, especially in the early morning/late afternoon hours. We saw a youngish male that apparently had just been hit by a car... his mate was by his side, grooming him. So we hit the brakes, reversed and checked. He was dead alright. Very sad. But nothing we could do about it, except drive even more carefully.
The last bit before Pafuri gate is tricky... lots of pedestrians, cattle, goats, donkeys, on the road (and a speed limit too, IIRC).

But once you're in the Park, you don't have to do like we did, of course. You can always skip brekkie at Pafuri PS, and/or forget about checking out Crook's corner. But since you're already in the area, why would you?

Anywayz... we arrived at Pafuri gate around 8 that morning, and arrived at Shingwedzi around 17:30, as in: a solid 12 hrs on the road.

What I'm saying is, true in theory the kms and the hours match... just be prepared that it may take you just a wee bit longer. :wink:

Happy trails! :D

Btw, in our case: running into not 1, but 2 tuskers on the way (first Sikele and then, just before Shingwedzi camp, Mashagadzi) didn't do our schedule any good either. 8)
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Re: Mapungubwe advice needed.

Unread post by JoelR » Wed May 16, 2007 9:47 am

Jose wrote:What I'm saying is, true in theory the kms and the hours match... just be prepared that it may take you just a wee bit longer. :wink:

I totally agree, Jose - my times are a minimum. I would take a whole day too, especially to take it slow in the northern part of Kruger. Nobody wants to miss Pafuri picknick spot!

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Unread post by JoelR » Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:55 am

timbo wrote:1. What tme does the night drive leave from loekwe
2. How much is it.

The night drive leaves Leokwe at 19h30 and officially takes 2 hours but usually will take quite a bit longer :wink: Last year it was R115 pp and I´m sure prizes went up a bit - but no more than R130 I would gestimate...

I hope you´ll come across some cool animals, timbo. Last time I was on a nightdrive in Mapungubwe we saw an aardvark! You might want to ask Gedeon, Simon or one of the other guides to show you the baboons that are sleeping on the vertical sandstone cliff face to hide from leopards - quite a sight!

Just to fill you in about other options: the heritage tour to Mapungubwe Hill is a must and leaves at 7h00 and 10h00, morning drives and walks leave at 5h30 and sunset drives at 16h00. Prizes are about the same for everything, although the walk is a bit more expensive and the heritage tour to the hill somewhat cheaper. :)

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Unread post by j-ms » Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:50 pm

JoelR wrote:the heritage tour to Mapungubwe Hill is a must and leaves at 7h00 and 10h00

You will be short-chnaging yourself if you don't do the Heritage Tour up Mapungubwe Hill. IMHO it's the MOST important aspect of this park.

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Unread post by Jose » Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:17 pm

JoelR wrote:<...> the heritage tour to Mapungubwe Hill is a must <...>

So true! And when you decide to climb all the way to the top, check out the bats in the cracks in the rock under the stairs. Their smell will tell you where to look. :wink:
@Joel: what species of bat are they, btw?

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Unread post by JoelR » Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:46 pm

Jose wrote:@Joel: what species of bat are they, btw?

mammals<15cm= :? :?:

I wish I knew more about bats, Jose... I only know the Mauritian Tomb Bats, because a bunch of them were literally hanging out at my house on the bank of the Limpopo river in Mapungubwe.

So if you´re climbing the hill, timbo - which you´re definitely going to do after all this advise :twisted: - ask the guide (Moses or Cedric) for the name of the bat and let us know! Also look out for Rock Hyrax´s (Dassies) and see if you can spot ellies or even rhinos from the hill. The pretty black-and-white-andsomeyellow-bird with the red dot on its forehead is an Acacia Pied Barbet. That I do know... :wink:


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