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Re: Bitten and want another bite

Unread postby lion queen » Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:55 pm

Moobox, the bush in Kgalagadi is always "skraal".........but the grass could be high!!

Nossob landscape in February

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Same area September

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Normally we have summer rainfall. Which could mean that you could get that Rainstorm in Spetember!?!?!
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Re: Kgalagadi booking advice sought

Unread postby PRWIN » Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:35 pm

If you do register for online reservation and try to make a booking at SANParks you may find that the system will not allow you to leave a 3 day gap between Nossob and Grootkolk. On-line can only be done 10 months in advance, while telephonic reservations 11 months. I would advise to try the first possible chance to book although your bookings will not fall during the school holidays and maybe not that busy then. When booking telephonically you may not be hindered by the 3 day gap and can explain why you book that why. The best might be to first complete your SA booking and then start the Botswana section there after in case you cannot get the 3 days at Polentswa.

Looks like Sigmund has the right contact because my July 2014 holiday was cancelled on 1 August when all the camps were booked out by the time I could view the availability. :cry:

Good luck with your plans and bookings.

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Late arrival in Twee Rivieren?

Unread postby wildcatzoo » Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:44 pm

We will be landing in Upington at 12:30 pm on a Saturday, need to pick up the rental car and go shopping for 10 days worth of supplies. What is the latest we should leave Upington by? Is it possible to arrive at Twee Rivieren after the gates close and be stuck there for the night?
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Re: Bitten and want another bite

Unread postby shfish » Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:46 pm

Hi Moobox,
In my experience over many visits to KTP, November, April and May are the best times to visit. Mid winter is unpleasantly cold and the summer months can be very hot with the possibility of serious rain. I can take heat, but 45 to 50 degrees as it was in March this year is taking it a bit too far when you are camping.
Do not even think of going in a sedan - you'll do the trip but you'll take 100000ks off the lifespan of your car. Your NP200 is fine.
If you're camping, don't hop too much. Spend at least 2 nights at a camp.
Enjoy.

PS. There's a Bushman saying that says if you take a woman to the Kalahari, she will pine to go back.

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Re: Late arrival in Twee Rivieren?

Unread postby lion queen » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:04 pm

Hi wildcatzoo,

It's a two and a half hour drive to Twee Rivieren from Upington.

No late entry at Twee Rivieren. They lock the gates and you will be stuck in the parking lot outside the Reception Building.

PnP in Upington stay open on Saturdays (actually 7 days a week) till 8pm........What you could do to save time is email them your basic grocery list and then you only need to do the shopping for those items you want to pick out yourself. The emailed groceries will be ready for you just to pay and pick up. PM me if you need the email address.
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Re: Late arrival in Twee Rivieren?

Unread postby wildcatzoo » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:33 am

Thanks lion queen!

While I've shopped in South African supermarkets before I can't remember how well they compare to the US so I'm not sure what to request - for anyone who's done this before, what are some standard things? Tinned corn for sure. Boxed juices, but I forget what flavors are available. Do they have mixed nuts? We'll need what, 50 litres of water for the two of us? Should we get that from PnP or somewhere else? Does PnP have charcoal? Firewood? A cooler box?
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Re: Late arrival in Twee Rivieren?

Unread postby Dabchick » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:46 am

Hi wildcatzoo,

Pick'n Pay (PnP) has an online store where you can go and have a look at what are available before you mail your shopping list through [www dot picknpay dot co dot za (just click on the "shop online" button on the home page)]

And yes, all the things you've mentioned, they do have :thumbs_up:

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Re: Kgalagadi booking advice sought

Unread postby Luikat » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:36 am

Thanks for the advice. Yes the problem is that the availability at this stage only shows up to 31 July 2014 and we're going in Sept 2014. Also the Mabue trail is meant to be the highlight of our trip so we need to sort out that booking first, then the rest of the bookings can follow. I have faxed Botswana Reservations and requested availability at Mabue camping and trail and eagerly await their response. Will follow up with them in a few days. :pray:

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Re: Late arrival in Twee Rivieren?

Unread postby klotzof » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:32 am

You should make it easily, but even if you are late you can phone twee rivieren the day before you arrive to let them know you will be late and they will make an arrangement. I did it 2 years ago and I had no problem. If you shop at the pick and pay you can e-mail the manager a week before you go with your shopping list. They deliver to the airport and pack it in the car for no extra charge. They were brilliant. There is a link to a shopping section for the ktp. I put all the details in my post there about 2 years ago

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Re: Late arrival in Twee Rivieren?

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:33 pm

One of the items that is usually plentiful in the 2R shop, is firewood.

50 litres of bottled water seems a lot, unless you drink very little else at this time of year.

The park shops sell it as well if you run out.
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KTP - 4 weeks in the park

Unread postby Grit1962 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:11 am

Hello to all forumites. Reading through the forum for a couple of years now I would like to ask my very first question :dance:

We have already visited KTP in May 2007 (5 nights) and Nov 2011 (15 nights). It was always a great experience and this year we will do our ultimate vacation and stay for 28 nights starting Oct 30. :lol:

We will travel with a 4x4 Camper so space is limited which means we can not take as much food/water, etc. as we will need for the four weeks. We are coming from Windhoek, so will buy as much as we can there.

In 2011 the offer in the shops was very limited, even drinking water was most of the time only available in 1,5 l bottles.
From what I have learnt, owners have changed. Are the shops better stocked now and do they usually have the large 5 liter water cans on stock. Will some fresh produce (squash, cabbage), fresh bread and frozen meat be available, at least at 2R?

Thanks a lot for your help and greetings from Germany

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Re: KTP - 4 weeks in the park

Unread postby Scouter » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:20 am

Hi Grit and a very warm welcome to posting on the Forum :thumbs_up:

You do realise that most of us are incredibly jealous that you are going to our favourite place for a whole MONTH :mrgreen: Hope you have wonderful time and wishing you fantastic sightings ...

As regards the shops, they have been taken over by SANParks again and they have changed quite a lot. The last twice I have been this year they have been quite well stocked in Twee Rivieren - dont know about the other camps as havent been this year but they are obviously a lot smaller shops so their stock is always a lot less. The shop at TR had 5 l water and they even have a fridge that has eggs and cheese and some fruit and veggies in as well as bread and rolls and meat ....

Will send you a PM now with details of the other little places near to the park you can buy fresh stuff - dont want to get into trouble by mentioning non-SANParks things on here :wink:
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Re: KTP - 4 weeks in the park

Unread postby Grit1962 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:23 pm

Hi scouter

Thanks for the info. That sounds good, so we will be able to buy goods every time we pass 2R.

Apart from Bitterpan and KTC we have bookings for all camps and wilderness camps, as well as for the Botswana camps Rooiputs and Polentswa. So we will "cruise" thru the park in all directions :thumbs_up:

Does anyone know if the construction of the planned new lodge at Polentswa has already started? I have heard that Rooiputs can be booked but no News about Polentswa...

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Re: Bitten and want another bite

Unread postby moobox » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:30 pm

Hello all

Few more questions folks. And there's bound to be more as we go along so please bear with me. Someone told me that the roads have like an embankment all along the sides that you wont see over very well in a low car. Can anyone give some info on this? Why is it like that? Is it all over?

Cheers - Ed

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Re: Bitten and want another bite

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:35 pm

AFAIR moobox, it is only between Melkvlei and Dikbaardskolk in the Nossob River. The road is 'cut into the riverbed. For long periods you can just see the top of the ridge, but that is where the grass grows quite thickly, so your viewing will be obstructed in a low car.
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