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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by Dotty » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:16 pm

I will make enquiries for you
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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by Jonkers » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:26 pm

Great Dotty :thumbs_up:
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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by gb225450 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:35 pm

Sounds like some progress is being made! :mrgreen:

I would be happy to contribute if we reach step 4.
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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by jan.dup » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:18 pm

gb225450 wrote:
I would be happy to contribute if we reach step 4.


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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by shane » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:36 am

Morning All

Well this sounds good, but please bear this in mind:

I am in the building industry (Architect) so have contact with a wide range of woodworkers / joiners / supplies. Let talk before going into it.

Trust Dotty will plot the way forward for us ?
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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by garrow » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:06 am

I see that the huts at Nossob and Mata Mata have ceilings. Does that help in terms of bats flying around inside the huts? I would think that this problem would be more common in the huts with the thatch roofs.

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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by shane » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:14 am

Garrow, they find there way in through open doors and unprotected windows ..............
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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by garrow » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:50 am

I agree that by having open doors and windows you are inviting bats into your hut. Ever since I started visiting the Kruger and the Kgalagadi I have had bats flying around in my huts on numerous occasions despite keeping the doors and windows closed, but, it has always been in the thatch roof huts. That is why I am enquiring if anyone has had the same problems with the huts with ceilings at Mata Mata and Nossob. The times that I have stayed at Nossob, Mata Mata, Urikaruus and Kalahari tented camps I had no problems with bats. When I have stayed in the huts at Twee Rivieren which have thatch roofs I have had numerous bats flying around.

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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by Lionspoon » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:14 pm

Never had a bat problem in Nossob so far. Can't comment on MM as I have stayed there only once.
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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by Nina! » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:18 pm

We did not have any bats in Nossob, Mata Mata, Grootkolk and Kalahari Tented Camp.

However, we had them in Twee Rivieren, Urikaruus and Kielie Krankie.

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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by RichardJ » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:27 pm

My take on the "problem" Bats.

We had a 1 night stay at Urikaruus 9 March. The bats were in the ceiling, above the styrene type ceiling below the 2 corrugated roof sheets.

They have had a population explotion. The noise/sound/soothing tones continues all night.

Sanparks started a program during our second visit (app 21 March) to encourage the Bats to move out.
The units were fumigated (non toxic) and then almost all the openings between the ceiling and lower corrugated roof were sealed with foam. The idea that the Bats would get out but not easily find their way back ....and make their homes eslewhere.

Stage 2 requires removing/redoing the ceiling.

After this first step was when the Bats needed to leave within the unit.
The shower area just happens to be where there is a gap/hole in the ceiling for them to crawl out. Perhaps the water had something to do with it!

My SO was more concerned by their plight and trying to assist them in 'getting safely to freedom' than seeing a mating couple of Lions walking through camp.

We slept with all windows /doors and flyscreens open to allow them to fly out.

Our take.....is that we humans are intruding in their world.

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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by GlynB » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:52 pm

I don't see the problem...My bat accompanies me on all trips, which OFTEN results in horrendous experiences... :tongue: ...only joking.... :lol:

We had one of those night experiences at Twee Rivieren in October 2012 where we were being dive-bombed by bats the whole night, till I finally, when my bat had threatened to sleep in the car and out of pure desparation :wall: , left the light on in the bedroom and then it quietened down. :shock:

The next day I spoke to JG about it and we took his advice.

He said they come out as dusk to start feeding. That is the time that you must put ALL lights off in the chalet....close all windows and open all doors (toilet, shower, bedroom and front door)....

If you sit watching the door you can actually see the bats flying out to feed.

The minute it gets dark, you go and close all doors and leave the lights off.

KG said that once the bats have fed, they will go and 'roost' somewhere else, as they can't get back into YOUR chalet.....I hope I did not have a Forumite as a neighbour that night and they got all MY bats.... :pray:

After that, to get in and out of the chalet, you leave the light off inside and literally 'ooze' quickly in and out through the front door. Also when inside with the light on we 'oozed' through the bedroom door as well, just in case some got into the front room.

No more bats in the chalet and we did not experience any bats on our following 2 nights there. Following the same procedure each disk, of course :whistle:

This might not always work, but it did for us. :dance:

Not sure how to deal with the bats that can crawl in through crevices in the woodwork though :hmz:

Maybe I must take the HTH bottle with, as suggested by BB :thumbs_up:
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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by jan.dup » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:11 pm

RichardJ wrote: Sanparks started a program during our second visit (app 21 March) to encourage the Bats to move out.


Thank you Sanparks - much appreciated !! I think this will already make a huge difference.

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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by jenand » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:38 am

Thanks for the update RichardJ.

I was in #1 the night after you (10 and 11 March). The bats were incredibly loud. Eric could stand near the bottom of the steps to his chalet and hear them in my roof. There were hundreds! And it was all night and all day.

Glad to hear they're trying to (safely) encourage them to roost somewhere else.

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Re: Bats "problem" (or not) in KTP accomodation ?

Unread post by Munchkin » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:07 pm

:hmz: Having read all the comments on this thread, I think I have the solution - pitch a tent! :lol:
Seriously though, we have never experienced a problem with bats - and in fact, I love seeing them flying out at dusk when we have stayed over in chalets in KTP - all part of nature! (Just my 5c)
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