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Identification Help - Tortoise

Unread post by Wholt » Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:57 pm

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Please can someone help ID this type of tortoise it's not a Leopard Tortoise. I'm presuming that its a hinged tortoise but I'd like to know which one. This specimen was seen in the south of the Kruger National Park
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Re: Please Help ID tortoise

Unread post by Imberbe » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:51 pm

Not a tortoise expert ...

Firstly, you are correct that it is a hinged tortoise. :thumbs_up:

OK, you get two types of hinged tortoise that occur in the area of the Southern KNP.

The first is the Natal hinged tortoise. This is not a common tortoise, and has a poorly developed hinge. It is also the smallest of the hinged tortoises.

The second is the Speke's hinged tortoise. This is the most commonly found one in the KNP. It has a well developed hinge, has smooth marginals and is a medium sized animal.

My gut feeling is telling me that this is a Speke's. I base it on the fact that this animal has clearly a well developed hinge. Size is difficult to judge from the photo. Also the smooth marginals.

Again ... no expert on this.
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Re: Please Help ID tortoise

Unread post by 3dgreek » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:54 pm

It's a funny little thing...to me it's like a mix of Speke's and Natal...skin colour is also very dark for either of the species...shell shape is Natal but colour is similar to Speke's...bit of a puzzler.

Must be a tortoise expert out there somewhere
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Re: Please Help ID tortoise

Unread post by Imberbe » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:14 pm

There are many animals in which colour is not a good indication of species. This include many of your reptiles. Colours fade with age and vary considerably within species.
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Re: Please Help ID tortoise

Unread post by Wholt » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:18 am

In terms of size this specimen was around 30cm in length

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Re: Please Help ID tortoise

Unread post by Imberbe » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:43 am

Then it is a Speke's. The Natal HT will only reach approx. half that length.

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Tortoise: Speke's Hinged

Unread post by charbel » Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:40 pm

Hi friends,
After a travel to KNP, I am now working on the identification of all the (many) animals we saw. The tortoise in the photos gave me some trouble. I finally identified it as a Speke's hinged tortoise (Kinixys spekii). Do you agree?

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Re: Identification help: Speke's hinged tortoise

Unread post by charbel » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:09 pm

I think there are more tortoises and terrapins there, for instance, we saw many leopard tortoises....

There is a page for Speke's Hinged Tortoise related to Kruger: http://www.krugerpark.co.za/africa_spek ... toise.html

In this page, it is also mentioned in a range of distribution that would include Kruger:
http://nlbif.eti.uva.nl/bis/turtles.php ... ten&id=352

But I agree it is puzzling... What made me think of this species was the elongated carapace... For instance, in the picture shown in the last webpage the carapace looks quite similar...

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Re: Identification help: Speke's hinged tortoise

Unread post by o-dog » Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:49 pm

Hi...saw plenty of these now in KNP as well as leopard Tortoises and Terrapins. This is definately not a leopard tortoise or a terrapin. I am going for Speke's Hinged Tortoise...Im pretty sure its that.
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Re: Identification help: Speke's hinged tortoise

Unread post by charbel » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:28 pm

Yes, I looked at some more website... I definitely go for Speke's hinged tortoise. It is very helpful, anyway, to discuss with you all here. Thanks!

We saw many leopard tortoises crossing the roads in KNP, but only this Speke's hinged tortoise...

One fantastic thing we saw in S44, going from Olifants to Letaba: in a small pond, 23 terrapins and one young nile crocodile just besides our car, the terrapins passing over the crocodile all the time, while it remained rather motionless... but the terrapins funnily moved towards our car with their heads and necks very stretched, looked intensely at all, turned back and returned to water, just for us to watch another set of terrapins coming again.... very interesting indeed!

Do someone else saw this behavior?

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Re: Identification help: Speke's hinged tortoise

Unread post by o-dog » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:47 pm

:thumbs_up: ...agreed!

Your post made me double check...never have I seen so many as in December. Maybe 5-7 Speke's Hinged Tortoise in total, mostly close to Skukuza. Great to be interested in everything though, I find it makes the trip so much more rewarding :D

Anyway this is an interesting sighting you mention..I am sure I read it somewhere on the forum in the last week so if it wasn't you, have a little look. I do remember once seeing a large herd of buffalo go into a small dam and you should have seen the mass exodus of all the terapins crawling out and then one or two buffalo started chasing them. It was really funny!

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Re: Identification help: Speke's hinged tortoise

Unread post by charbel » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:06 am

Nice!
We saw this Speke's hinged tortoise in H2-2, going from Pretoriuskop to Afsaal...

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Re: Identification help: Speke's hinged tortoise

Unread post by Imberbe » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:09 am

That is a tortoise, and there are only two species of tortoise in KNP, nl. the Leopard and Speke's Hinged.

That is the Speke's. :thumbs_up:
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Re: Identification help: Tortoises

Unread post by bondm » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:08 pm

Hi there, I found this tortoise in Berg-en-Dal camp.Image

Could anyone tell me what variety it is. bondm

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What kind of Tortoise

Unread post by roaneric » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:00 am

Hi guys.

I posted this photo of a tortoise I saw 3 weeks ago. But there is some confusion on what kind it is? Who can help out?

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