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Unread post by simonB » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:03 am

WOW thanx for the great news Megan - I will be sure to look out for them when I am there, hopefully the little one survives until then.

Wonder how the males will react?


Wonder why there is only one... or is that only one left?

Only the lions will know...

Well its great news and I can't wait to see them.[/quote]
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Unread post by Addo Elephant » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:36 pm

At last, some photos of the new cub, with Kamkwa and Gina, taken by a tourist:

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Unread post by Peter Betts » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:51 pm

Megan this is fantastic news...thanks for putting up the pics...Thats the hill coming out of Waynes Valley it looks like

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The above pic I took about a week ago of Gina about 200 metres further up the hill than the cub pics here. She was roaring, walking around and listening all the time and then suddenly after a spell of listening she looked over the hill ...got all excited and disappeared down the far side of the hill out of sight...Maybe it was Kamkwa and little one who had come in answer to the roars...who knows.

I believe the gestation period of a lion is 110 days which could explain that Kamkwa may have fallen pregnant in this courtship between her and Bitterbal on 16 Feb which would have made a birth around beginning of June??? please do the Maths as I am no good at these things.

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Unread post by Henk » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:09 am

Just been to Addo and we saw Ardlam and her 2 young one's feasting on a warthog they killed. It was just as you turn of the tarroad after Domkrag dam towards Carols Rest. Two lovely looking young lions. I will post some pics in a few days.

Then on Saterday afternoon we saw Gina on the hill just before the South Gate. I might be wrong but she looked very pregnant to me.
Can anyone help, is she pregnant?

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Unread post by Addo Elephant » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:21 am

In the photos posted of the Kamkwa and her cub, the cub looks about 10 days to 2 weeks old, which would mean it would have been born in the first week of June so Kamkwa would have conceived mid February.

You would not be able to tell whether Bitterbal is the father as Kamkwa was seen being covered by more than one of the male lions. It is in the lioness's interest to mate with as many males as she can as this will give her cubs a better chance of survival. Male lions will kill cubs that they have not sired but if they have mated with a lioness, there is a chance that the cubs could be theirs and they would be less likely to kill the cubs.

Gina could very well be pregnant as she has also been covered by some of the male lions. We would not be sure, however, until she gave birth or showed signs of lactating (and feeding cubs).
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Unread post by Henk » Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:20 pm

Here are some pics on the lions seen in Addo last week.

First Ardlam and her 2 young ones.

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The girl
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The boy
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The Lunch
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Then we found Gina
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Looking very pregnant
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Unread post by lirritma » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:32 pm

I got these two guys at Marion Baree Friday morning. They just passed through without drinking water.

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Ardlam and the youngsters made a kill between Zuurkop and Janwalpan at the same time - we didn't see it but saw the photos taken by some other Addo campers.
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Unread post by lirritma » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:25 am

Salva wrote:Thx Lirritma. So you did find some of them. What beautiful and powerful animals! :shock:


Well my strategy paid off - at least this time :lol: :lol: . The lions tend to like the area from Spekboom to the south gate so I left park every morning at gate opening time, drove straight to the spekboom area (at the maximum that the park allows :clap: ) and then slowly trough to the south gate. The idea being that if I'm in the same area at the same time every day then I should have the best chance of spotting them on one of the morning - well we got lucky on the last one. :dance: . I freewheeled from the top of the hill down to Marion Baree (got a rhino there the day before) and then spotted part of a mane in a footpath leading to the waterhole. Less than a minute late the first one arrived (think it was Bitterbal) making an entrance with a fantastic roar right next to us - it just sound so much louder in the chilly early morning air. About 2 minutes later we heard another one approaching (probably Nos sob). They just greeted and kept on walking passed the hole without drinking - quite a pity because the reflections on the water would have been fantastic.
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Unread post by lirritma » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:57 pm

To gain access through the south gate (old gate) you need to enter the park trough the Matyholweni gate which is about 26 km from the old gate (which I refer to as the South gate). That stretch of road is also at the max speed limit in the park so it doesn't really matter if you enter from Addo main camp or Matyholweni as the distance to the area where I got the lions are about the same.

It's also not true that the lion are always there. At the same time we got the two male other visitors got three lions on a kill in the Zuurberg look-out area and my son saw one at the main camp waterhole at 6:30 on Wednesday last week. They are also seen on a regular basis at Carol's Rest and visitors spotted two males at Domkrag dam mid-morning last week.

Still a case of being at the right place at the right time. A friend of mine followed the same strategy as I did and was not so lucky to find them.

Happy "hunting" :lol:
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Unread post by Addo Elephant » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:46 am

DP sent this picture of the cub, which she spotted on the 6th July at about 4.30pm:

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Thanks for sharing this with us :D
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Unread post by Addo Elephant » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:15 am

Guides on the sunrise game drive saw Kamkwa and Gina this morning, heading back from a kill at a run in Wayne's Valley, presumably to rejoin little cub.
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Unread post by lirritma » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:36 am

Great to see that the little one is still alive and well. I hope Kamqua can succeed in keeping it like that. Gina seem to be doing a great job in supporting her mom. Lot to learn from it.

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Unread post by Peter Betts » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:32 pm

It must be so hard for Kamqua to leave the cub to go out and kill to replenish her milk supply and then rush back. I wonder if Gina pictured below very recently above Wayne's Valley is pregnant??. She seems to be heavy at the moment and not leaving the area. Could it be that she is helping her mom nurse the new cub???
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Unread post by Henk » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:04 pm

Peter

I agree, I also think Gina is Pregnant. Here she is two weeks ago in the same area.

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Unread post by simonB » Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:29 pm

hehe saw one lone male walking along a dirt road today going up a hill towards a grassy area near the south gateS, pity I couldnt follow him as the road he walked along was not marked on our map :-(

Megan, can I drive up a dirt road if it's not marked on the map, yet has no no entry sign? I decided not to work up parks board so didnt take the chance..

Here are the gps location details for the lion sighting.
S33 32.353' E025 47.818

Chances of seeing him on or near the same road are good as we found another camp who saw the same lion there yesterday at the same location, so if you near that place between 8-9am keep your eye's peeled.

Are there any other forumites in Addo between 12-17th?
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