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Unread post by Caracal » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:53 pm

As lerritma says that will work just fine in KTP. It is basically what we do as well. There are picnic spots that you can get out at and have breakfast but just remeber there is nothing there except toliets and tables....no skottels or fridges stocked with cooldrinks.
If you would like to see both riverbeds I suggest something like
1 x Twee Rivieren
2 x Urikaruus
2 x Nossob
2 x Twee Rivieren
Depending on how far you have to travel to get to the park you can exchange the Twee Rivieren nights for Kielie Krankie.

Urikaruus is a great camp...the advantage being that you can drive north and south....and it is great for leopard and spotted hyena sightings.
Twee Rivieren to Kij Kij delivers many great lion sightings but is also not short on leopard sightings.

Nossob has also been kind to us in the past...many great cheetah and lion sightings....both north and south of Nossob

There are many more great camps to visit eg. Grootkolk but here you need a few more days . One normally sleeps over at Nossob en route to Grootkolk so for a 2 day stay at Grootkolk you would need a night either side at Nossob...so that adds up to 4 nights out of your 7.

There are many trips reports that you can read....it may help you to make up your mind as to which camp you would prefer.

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Unread post by delboysafa » Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:01 pm

How about 3 nights at Nossob and the rest at Kalahari Tented Camp. If I had a week, thats what I would do

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Unread post by Peter Betts » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:24 am

No if it was me I would have 5 nights at Polentswa or Grootkolk with a night at Nossob on each side
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Unread post by Caracal » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:00 am

You see, pjw , everybody has their favourite camps for many different reasons.
I myself think Kalahari Tented Camp is a great camp especially if you have have teenagers because the camp has is a swimming pool.( This is the only unfenced camp that has a pool) But I could not stay there for more than 2 nights because one can really only drive south...it is only 3 km away from Mata Mata....so one basically drives the same road every time you go out. This is great if there is some action to be seen but otherwise it could get a bit boring!
The tents are spacious and a bit bigger than the other unfenced camps. We have had lots of spotted hyena sightings at the camp . The waterhole is quite far away but it is still enjoyable to sit on the deck and survey the surrounds. There are many birds in the trees as well mongooses and squirrels that come to visit!

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Unread post by Bush Baptist » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:11 pm

My view Pjw,

Nossob is the best traditional camp for me. It is near Marie se Draai, a 10 km loop where there is always some action. Going north a bit is also productive. There is a high density of lion in the area, and cheetah also pop in from time to time, and brown hyena are present. Birding is good around there, especially raptors. Look out for tawny & martial eagles, black chested snake eagles, greater kestrels, lanner falcons and the ubiquitous pale chanting goshawks.
Grootkolk is the only wilderness camp I have stayed at, and it was great, but if wanderw had her way (and the money) she woud live there!
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Unread post by GavinW » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:01 pm

My views are as follows:
1. We only use TR to go in and out of the park as we feel it to be too close to civilisation for our liking.
2. Nossob is great in so much as you are in the middle of the park and you have a choice of going either north or south (problem there is which way to go!)
3.Urikaruus is great as you are inbetween TR and Mata Mata which gives you a really peacefull hour either early in the morning before the MM and Tr mob reach you and conversley in the evening.We had a leopard on the road to ourselves for 45min this last trip! at Urikaruus
4. 7 days is too short a time in the park. our minimum is 10
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Unread post by lirritma » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:13 pm

Very useful view Gavin. Thanks for that. I would agree on TR, but the section between TR and Kij Kij also deliver very good sightings and one rarely are dealing with tall grass situations there. Do you suggest that one then use KK as your base or do you go and camp at Rooiputs - seen some scary photos of lion visits there?

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Unread post by icurrie » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:20 pm

Pjw choices, choices!!! Of the 4 camps we were in on our first (and not last!) trip to KTP I would say Urikaruus and Nossob were the most special and this is not because of spectacular sightings but rather because of the amazing atmosphere at these camps. Urikaruus is not to be missed... it may creak a little (ok, a lot) but you just can't beat waking up in the middle of the night, sitting up in bed and looking out over the waterhole in the hopes that something great would appear (Try and go at full moon and it is even more special!)
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Unread post by GavinW » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:23 pm

I would go for Rooiputs if you can - Whilst KK is a stunning camp, if you want to see the action on the TR Kij Kij road, KK
is about 38kms (1 hour) or so away from the intersection at Kij Kij

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Unread post by Pjw » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:42 pm

Thanks Guys for all the advice Its going to be a big help
How does this sound
!st night TR
2nd night Mata mata
3rd night Kalahari tented
4th night Nossob
5th night Grootkolk
6th night Nossob
last night TR

Any comments? Are the distances reasonable ? Should we do nights at Kalahari tented rather than go to Grootkolk?
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Unread post by billyf » Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:20 pm

If you are staying in chalets your itenerary would work, but not if you plan to camp at MM and Nossob. I prefer to stay 2 to 3 nights at a camp as a minimum - love repeating drives and allowing time to spend at water holes - just to watch the action - or enjoy the peace and tranquility if there is not much action.

How far are you driving before arriving at TR? if only from Upington I would skip TR and go straight to Mata Mata or Urikaruus.

That's my 2c.

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Unread post by Batsman » Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:23 pm

You've got a lot of driving. I would suggest that you stay at least two nights at Mata-Mata or KTC and two nights at Grootkolk. Believe me, Grootkolk has its own magic.

My suggestions is

TR
Mata-Mata or KTC
Mata-Mata or KTC
Nossob
Grootkolk
Grootkolk
TR

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Unread post by Pjw » Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:13 pm

Billyf we will probaly be going from Augrabies as we plan to spend a day or two there before going into KTP. .
Thanks for that advice Batsman. We won't miss Grootkolk
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Unread post by wanderw » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:36 pm

Hi Pat

I would try to add at least an extra day. My suggestion:

TR
Nossob
Grootkolk
Grootkolk
Urikariuus
Urikariuus
MM or KTC
TR

Grootkolk to U distance is just doable for us, and if you can stay 9 or 10 days, extra nights at Nossob and TR. (TR has been very productive for us - 3 super leopard sightings ,apart from lots of lions, cheetah and honey badger) I must add that one trip we only went for a long weekend,and were blown away with awesome sightings. So, whatever time you have, going to KTP is worth it! Enjoy!
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Unread post by bucky » Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:32 am

In my opinion that is to much driving, remember the roads are a bit bouncy so your body does tend to get a bit tired if you drive to much, you will also have to pack up before leaving camp every day, missing the best viewing times in the morning.

First up, I would swap the night at grootkolk for nossob .
In my opinion its just to much driving to run up to grootkolk for an evening, and miss out on the prime viewing around nossob.

I would also try add another night onto the trip, an extra night in the beginning would be good, perhaps make Augrabies 1 night as that is enough to see the falls the afternoon you arrive, and then do the drive to moon rock and other views the following morning, departing for Kalahari just before lunch.
Make your evening at TR 1 night earlier to accommodate your mornings drive in Augrabies, and then add the extra night in at MM or KTC.
If you don't add another night onto KTP, then leave earlyish from Augrabies after your two evenings there and you will have enough time to go straight up to matta matta or KTC rather than TR, why not try stay at KTC the whole time, as it is the same area as matta matta, but with nicer accomodation.

If you want a bush camp experience, do kielie krankie on the last night instead of TR, that will also leave you with a good area to drive the following morning.
The other option for a bush camp is to stay at Urikarus rather than Matta Matta/KTC.

I see to many people make the mistake of going to KTP for the first time and move from camp to camp just to try see the whole park, and end up missing out, I made that mistake myself !
Rather tell yourself you will do this section now, and then plan another trip for the other sections later.

I really have found that you need 3 days minimum in any specific area to allow it to reveal itself to you.
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