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Camera and phone/iPad connectivity

Unread post by PantoffelSlippers » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:57 am

Hi all,

Really hoping that you can help me out here

My annual Kruger park trip is coming up and on previous occasions I had the habit of carrying my laptop with me on holiday. It's the highlight of my day to go sit down at the bar in Satara just after gate closing time, have an ice cold beer and copy the day's pictures onto my laptop for review (over another ice cold beer). This ritual serves as a backup firstly as I now have a copy of my pictures for in case my camera is stolen/lost or the memory card crashes. Secondly, I really enjoy viewing the day's pictures on a proper screen to see if settings worked out and make mental notes for the next day.

I've seen a lot guys (or girls) do this sort of thing using their iPads. I decided that I don't want to mission around with my laptop this year and would also rather use my iPad for this purpose. I just don't know how.

I have a Canon 60D and 3rd generation iPad running the latest iOS software.

Please help me get this right before I go!!

Thanks a mil!

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Re: Your DSLR and iPad

Unread post by JimS » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:52 am

Hi

I asked the same question and never really got a satisfactory reply. I checked out several other photo forums,
dpreview.com being one of them and the ipad does not get very good reviews from serious photographers.

Like you I normally carry a Windows PC plus an additional external hardrive for backing up my images, and I know that an ipad will not support an external drive, according to the guys at an Apple istore. There also appears to be issues around moving images to and from a PC. I shoot RAW most of the time and that requires an app from the istore.

Maybe if you have a MAC notebook things are easier but I have a PC and do not want to pay the high price for a MAC and the cost of new software, I use CS and Lightrrom.

i guess the best idea is to take a CF or SD card plus your notebook to an Apple stors and check out the ipad delivers what you need.

Maybe someone who uses an ipad can comment.

Jim

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Re: Your DSLR and iPad

Unread post by Andre & Ursela » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:31 pm

I myself have and ipad the firts one and im not sure bout thr ipad 3 but the only way i can load photos onto my ipad is by using a laptop there is no room for a memory card or any other plug in. Maybe u can buy that im not sure better u ask the ipad experts at apple store! I LOVE my ipad and carry it every where with me but it does not double as a laptop.

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Re: Your DSLR and iPad

Unread post by timbo » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:08 pm

As far as I know there is apparently a connection piece which fits a usb and lets you dumb images directly onto your Ipad

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/ipad-no ... dslr/13045

but its not very good apparently, havent heard of any good reviews
I try my best and that's what matters I hope.

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Re: Your DSLR and iPad

Unread post by Trentonskeeper » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:24 pm

I have an iPad 1 and my hubby has a iPad 2 and we have the iPad camera connection kit and our favorite thing to do is upload our pics from our Cannon 600D SD cards every night directly to one of our iPads and then sit and go thru the images once the kids are in bed. I can take 500 pics a day so it can take anywhere from 20min to and hour to get the images uploaded but it's worth it and we love it.

Wonderful quite time before bed for hubby and I and nothing like reviewing the days sightings.

Not sure where you can get the connection piece in SA cause we got ours in the UK but if you can find it it's worth the money it cost. Only downside is by the end of a few days I start having to delete apps and movies from my iPad to make space for my pics. Lol

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Re: Your DSLR and iPad

Unread post by PantoffelSlippers » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:39 am

Thanks all,

I got my connection kit working for the first time last night. Didn't do anything different. It seems to detect the camera once every five to ten times I plug it in!

I suspect the connector itself isn't great and you have to really plug it into the iPad perfectly. Only thing I can think of....

When it does work though, it works well. I transferred 730 images (just under 7GB) in about 10 minutes which I thought was rather quick. I haven't compared image size between camera and iPad yet but it doesn't seem as if the images are resized at all. I will confirm this later today though.

So what's the plan now? I don't know. I don't want to sit in KNP with a connector that works 10% of the time. Think I will test another connection kit or look into an eye-fi card.

More comments welcome

Thanks

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Re: Your DSLR and iPad

Unread post by Shutterbug » Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:13 am

For the past 3 years I have left my laptop at home and only take my iPad, I shoot with a Canon 1D Mk4 and shoot everything in RAW and have never had an issue putting my days shooting onto my iPad, the RAW files are transfered to the iPad and a JPEG file is automatically and seamlessly created for viewing your images on the iPad, when I get home a simple sync with my computer transfers all the original RAW files to my computer.... however there is only one way that I know of that it can be done and thats with this device.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC531ZM/A/apple-ipad-camera-connection-kit

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Re: Your DSLR and iPad

Unread post by Shutterbug » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:24 pm

Hi ILM,
At the end of each day I dump everything onto my iPad then I quickly skim through the days shooting on my camera and delete the pics I dont want to keep, I only have about 1500 keepers after a two week trip so I end up with a backup of about 2000 pics on my iPad and 1500 good shots on my cards, I can fit all of these on two cards.
My camera also takes two cards and I save to both cards at the same time :shock: I know thats an overkill but its all digital and so the extra backup doesn't cost anything, my second card I dont even look at and as soon as I get my pics on my home computer (and backed up again with a remote external HD :D) I wipe all the cards.

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Re: Your DSLR and iPad

Unread post by Shutterbug » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:55 pm

OMG… I would rather not get on the plane than check my camera bag… I have done a ton of traveling with my camera equipment and I think I have it sorted out, for my camera equipment (1D, 100-400, 24-70, HUGE canon charger???, Flash+Better Beamer, cleaning equipment, wireless hotspot, and a bunch of other stuff, no binoculars for me) I use the Kata bag http://tinyurl.com/awyzqas and guys can take a second smaller carry-on so I use a little Tumi bag for iPad, toiletries and a change of clothes, (I have a shower, change of clothes and good meal in London) I took a tripod a couple times to Kruger but for the hassle vs the times I used it it just wasn’t worth it so I leave it at home now. My Kata bag is small enough that it can fit under the seat in front of me on the small plane that goes from JHB-KMIA, there is NO WAY I would check it, one time the guy on the ramp at Johannesburg airport said I should put my bag on the cart when we were boarding the plane and I said no its camera equipment and he said "oh, ok, no problem"

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Re: Your DSLR and iPad

Unread post by iLoveMeerkats! » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:27 am

Shutterbug,
I have had the same problem with the JHB-KMIA flight but one time they were absolutely firm that I couldn't take my camera bag on board with me. I told them it was cameras and they didn't care. Finally they let me bring it in, but I couldn't have it at my seat and the flight attendant put it in a closet at the front of the plane. I didn't take my eyes off the closet the entire flight! :big_eyes: We always fly Virgin Atlantic SF-LON-JNB. I love the airline but the maxium weight for an item of cabin baggage is 13lb / 6 kg!!! Camera, case and 100-400 will do that! Once there was a woman with a scale in the boarding area and I almost had a heart attack!

Love that Kata bag (work of ART!). Last trip I went with a Nanuk (like a Pelican - HARD sided) and it worked out pretty well. It looks small and doesn't raise any eyebrows as you are checking in. If something LOOKS heavy, you can be in trouble! I can fit in 2 bodies, 10-22mm lens, small mac laptop, small external drive and a few other things. I put the 100-400 in the bottom of my purse. Husband gets one other lens, chargers, ipad, binoculars and other little things. We don't have any room for much else. I am a big believer in NOT putting anything in the check-in that I can not live without. There are too many can't-live-without camera/electronic things!

I agree that the tripod is a huge hassle. I wish there was a small, lightweight one that was really sturdy, but I have never seen one. We go for the beanbags (the kind with 2 legs that fit over the door) and I have been very happy. We fill them with buckwheat hulls. I tried beans and rice once, but the bag was so heavy I couldn't pick it up. The beanbags and all of the backup items (extra chargers, extra cords, extra...) and the cheapo binoc go in the checked bags.

I am soooooooooooooooo ready to pack, but April is a long way away. Too long.

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Re: Your DSLR and iPad

Unread post by PantoffelSlippers » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:51 am

Just wanted to check if someone asks ..... LoL

I found something called a PQI Air Card. If you're familiar with eye-fi, it's something similar.

The eye-fi is basically a SD Card that has WiFi capabilities built in. The PQI Air Card works on the same principle except that it uses a micro sd card for storage inside a sd card sized wireless adapter. The advantage of this is that when you need more storage, you just buy a normal micro sd card. You don't need to buy a whole wireless card and adapter kit again.

This means that you can transfer your photos straight from your camera to your iPad without cables, funny connectors or removing your card from the camera. And because it's copied to your iPad, you don't need the laptop which was my primary goal.

Important note: the communication between wifi card and camera is direct. This means that you don't need these devices to be on the same wireless network. The wifi card creates its own wireless network that the iPad connects to.

With the card, you get a free ipad application that you use to connect from the ipad to the wifi card's wireless network. Once connected you can also use the app to configure settings on the card like set a password etc. You can then see from the app, what photos are stored on the camera's memory card and select photos to copy to the iPad.

Two concerns:
- It's not lightening quick. The cards come in different speeds. I got the fastest one and still a little slow.
- I capture in JPEG + RAW. I have not yet been able to transfer both copies of an image. It only copies JPEG. Not sure if it's a limitation or if I need to configure it to copy both.

I bought the PQI Air Card 16GB Class 10 (fastest current speed rating) for R999.

I previously bought two iPad camera connector kits and couldn't get either to work. At the moment, this air card is the best solution I could find to date.

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Re: Your DSLR and iPad

Unread post by Shutterbug » Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:25 pm

Thanks for the info PantoffelSlippers.
I have the Eye-Fi Pro X2 card and it does transfer RAW files but in the "real world" it is as slow as molasses and now it lives in my camera room and I have gone back to direct transfer (pull the card out and stick it into the reader)
Have you tried your PQI card yet ? would love to know what sort of transfer speeds you are getting, speed is everything to me because I shoot in RAW and my camera auto powers off after 30 seconds which I dont want to change because I can get up to 1500 shots on a single charge and I really like that.
I have to say I also look forward to doing the transfer at the end of the day, especially if I am in Kruger :)

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Camera and phone/iPad connectivity

Unread post by mr wildguy » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:17 am

I was playing around with my new camera(Canon 650d :D ) and the idea hit me to try connect my camera to my phone (Galaxy S4).
the phone recognized the camera, and allowed me to view all my photos taken on my camera, as well as transfer them to my phone :).
This is very cool, as I can now send my pics back home while I'm in Kruger (cell reception permitting)

what you will need:
1 USB OTG( on the go ) cable
the usb cable that came with your camera

thats it! that all you need.

also if you have a phone with an IR blaster (Galaxy S4, HTC ONE and a couple others) there is an app (DSLR Remote) on the android market that will allow you to control your shutter from your phone... more awesomeness!

using the USB method mentioned above there is also an app (DSLR Controller) that pretty much enables you to take full control of your camera!

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Re: DSLR + Android = AWSOME!

Unread post by spargish » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:25 am

Hi Mr Wild Guy

Thanks for the tip. I got myself a USB OTG cable this week end, and connected my camera! Really simple an easy, I used to connect my SD card to my iPad but had to download all the pics before I could view them. Now with my S4 and OTG connector I can view the pics with out downloading them. Also really easy to upload to FlickR
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Re: DSLR + Android = AWSOME!

Unread post by Switchback » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:29 am

There's even more AWESOME available with your connection.

There's an even better app: DSLR Dashboard. Like many other apps, it allows you to take control of your camera, but this app has a secret weapon: It has a plugin to LRTimelapse. With this plugin, you can take even better star trail photos, time lapse photos and holy grail time lapses.

If you do a holy grail timelapse (when you take consecutive photos over a long period of time of a sunrise or sunset and convert it to a video) of a very scenic landscape for instance. You most likely have an intervalometer connected to your camera which tells your camera to take a photo every 30 seconds for the next 4 hours as an example. After the 4 hours, you will have around 480 photos which you will convert to a movie.

But, seeing that you are making a timelapse of a sunset, you will have to adjust your exposure constantly as the light changes. You can shoot in aperture priority, but that causes a lot of "flicker" in your video. You will most likely have to shoot in full manual, but that will mean you will have to manually adjust your exposure as the sun goes down.

With the DSLR Dashboard app and the LRTimelapse plugin - the app uses your first photo as reference, you tell it whether you are shooting a sunrise or sunset, give it some ISO limits and for the rest of the 4 hour shoot, it adjusts your camera's exposure automatically by comparing each new histogram of each new shot with the previous one! This ia a VERY cool app to use!
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