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First Time to KTP - Need help on kitchen facilities, braai

Unread post by lavy81 » Sun May 20, 2012 4:19 pm

Hello all!

I'm current planning my first ever trip to KTP next year (around May-July 2013). I will also be at KNP August this year.

I am planning a few nights in the wilderness camps in KTP but as I come from a tropical country which doesn't really do barbeque, may I ask if there are hotplates in the wilderness camp kitchens? I know there is some kind of facility for boiling water but if I bring a saucepan can I just use the same facility to boil pasta, egg and sauces and etc?

I will attempt to learn how to start a braai fire with charcoal and the likes before KTP, but I just wanted to know whether I could survive without braai-ing at all at the wilderness camps. :P Are those braai starter kits available at the local supermarkets (those you can just light up, with minimal skill).

It does say on the website that visitors are to bring their own drinking water and firewood. Aside from braai, what else is the firewood used for? Do we need to use it for heating etc?

Sorry if the questions seem a little obvious, hope someone can help :lol:

Thank you very much in advance

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Re: First Time to KTP - Need help on kitchen facilities, bra

Unread post by lion queen » Sun May 20, 2012 4:24 pm

Hi Lavy81 and welcome

All the wilderness camps has hotplates and pots and you'll be fine cooking your paste.

You could just make your fire and enjoy sitting outside looking at the stars without braaing.

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Re: First Time to KTP - Need help on kitchen facilities, bra

Unread post by Dotty » Sun May 20, 2012 4:50 pm

Hi Lavy81 :D a warm welcome to the forums.
Here is a topic with tips on how to braai hope it helps.
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Re: First Time to KTP - Need help on kitchen facilities, bra

Unread post by Sharifa » Sun May 20, 2012 6:51 pm

Hi Lavy81

Welcome to the Forum and I hope we get a Trip Report when you get back from both, KNP and KTP :)

It will be cold during May, June in KTP during the nights so be sure to bring warm clothing. The days are still lovely and warm :thumbs_up:

Your other questions have been answered by Dotty and LQ :thumbs_up:

All the Wildeness Camps have a two plate gas stoves so you will have no problem cooking. The big supermarkets all have the self starting charcoal which you just put a match to start :thumbs_up:

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Re: braais in KTP

Unread post by Lonehill_Birders » Mon May 21, 2012 12:39 pm

WOW Blackie, not that's what I call a braai! Or a smoking braai :big_eyes:
Just to add to the advice given above - Please switch all your lights off for a while, sit quietly outside, and look up! You will see the most amazing display of the night sky, satellites, milky way, southern cross - a sight that you won't see in the city. Especially Kieliekrankie lends itself to moon shots, if the moon is full.

Make sure the flames of your fire have died down before putting your meat on to braai, otherwise you'll have singed eyebrows trying not to cremate everything. Also make sure that the fire is doused before retiring to bed. The wind may blow a cinder onto the grass and start a fire. At the camps visitors are asked to keep the fires small, obviously to prevent veld fires, and also not to scare animals away too much. (read the rules displayed in your unit)

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Re: First Time to KTP - Need help on kitchen facilities, bra

Unread post by enrico » Tue May 22, 2012 3:43 pm

Having stayed at all the camps except Bitterpan on numerous occasions I have always found them to be adequtely equiped with all the crockery/cutlery/utensils you will need,including braai tongs.

Seeing as you are planning to come over in our winter I would suggest you purchase an inexpensive thermos flask in SA for your hot drinks on the early morning game drive.
Available at most supermarkets.

These are not supplied by the camps.

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Plugs to charge btteries.

Unread post by Luca » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:05 pm

just a question: do you know if Urikaruus, Kieliekrankie an Kgalagadi tented camp have plugs to charge battery of camera and laptop?
Thanks for your answers.
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Re: Plugs to charge btteries.

Unread post by icurrie » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:30 pm

Hi Luca - there is no electricity at these camps so there are no plugs to charge batteries. We use an inverter which plugs into the lighter in the car to charge all our batteries.

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Re: Plugs to charge btteries.

Unread post by Hippotragus » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:59 pm

Yes, as icurrrie says, no electricity in these camps. You have to charge everything in your car.
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Kitchen faciliteis Garagab and Kalahari tented

Unread post by zephneb » Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:59 pm

Kitchen facilities at Kalahari tented camp and Garagab?? - describe please. Pics seem to show only fridge/ freezer and two plate gas stove. Is there a ribbed pan for grilling? and cast iron pot for pap? Are the tents serviced daily? 12V lights or gas lights? Any chance of charging facilities for camera batteries? Is the water in the taps safe for drinking but just very brak and upotable, or is it unsafe for human consumption?
Thanks in anticaption for your help.

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Re: Kitchen faciliteis Garagab and Kalahari tented

Unread post by picnic » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:41 pm

Hi zephneb, you can also have a look here.(just click on here)
There are a pan, a pot and a braai on the deck. The water is not really good to drink.(take fresh water with)
The lights are solar powered. Get yourself a car charger for the batteries. Hope it helps. :thumbs_up:

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Re: First time Kgalagadi, Which wildernesscamp?

Unread post by Jonkers » Mon May 13, 2013 8:54 am

Playing it safe has nothing to do with staying in a wilderness camp or not. My first nights ever in KTP were in Nossob and two nights of roaring lions making the chalet and us inside tremble did give me a real bush feeling :lol: Once we had Urikaruus and nothing happened al all, the doves flying from the trees to the waterhole was the highlight of this wilderness experience
So do what you would like to do and what is in your opinion worth a visit. Some people always see lions at Marie se draai (and so do we) but I do know people who have never ever seen a lion there!
If you are looking to stay at MM you can stay at KTC instead, it is 4 km from MM but it is a wilderness camp. Nossob is a must, go on a drive or walk, remember it will be cold but hey you coming from the Netherlands will survive this. If you are looking for incredible endless views stay in KK instead of 2R, but it is all up to you. Go and see what KTP has in store for you, don't go to a camp because others told you so. You might raise expectations too high. Go with an open mind and be patient. If Columbus had listened to all the advisors he would have never sailed.......

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Re: Could somebody explain to me

Unread post by Gabrielle » Tue May 14, 2013 11:07 am

ice wrote:the ridiculous "no more than 2 people in a wilderness camp tent" rule? shouldn't it be left to us, the tourists, to decide whether we feel comfortable to share a tent with a third person (most likely a child)? what's the point in forcing a party of 3 or 5 to book another tent they will most likely not need?

Good day all

This rule is in place to protect the serenity/ exclusiveness of the wilderness camp experience as the product was designed to offer just that, serenity/ exclusiveness.

Within the KTP there are alternate accommodation options: Wilderness camps: i.e. Kalahari tented camp where additional pax and children are allowed. Also Mata Mata , Nossob and Twee Rivieren are alternatives. Most of the patrons to wilderness camps do go for the quietness, seclusion and tranquillity to get away from people so we don’t add people to the product as it caters for a specific market.

Another aspect is the design and functionality. The units are designed for only 2 pax per unit, inventory, supplies and space restrictions (The floor space of the units does not allow for more than 2 beds, inventory provisioning and water availability that has to be managed). Finally the rule is in place for general control and safety.

Should you have any other queries regarding this please don't hesitate to post them.

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Re: First time Kgalagadi, Which wildernesscamp?

Unread post by judik » Thu May 16, 2013 8:03 pm

My personal favorite was Gharagab,for which you need a real 4WD followed by Grootkolk
But for only 6 days in the park not sure I would recommend Grootkolk
I would certainly pick KTC over Mata Mata.

The thing about the car is that you don't need a true 4x4 for the main roads
That being said, the roads are sandy and rutted and being in a sedan would make for some uncomfortable driving
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Re: First time Kgalagadi, Which wildernesscamp?

Unread post by t-bal » Fri May 17, 2013 10:24 pm

Hello Mites

Jonkers thank you for your words of wisdom. We are trying to get a general impression of people who have had firsthand experiences of the does and don’ts of the KTP. We always enter the parks open minded and consider every sighting as a bonus. You also mentioned that Nossob is worth doing a bush walk which is an interesting thought as we wanted to do a few walks in Kruger, might be worth spreading them out over the 2 parks? Agree 100% with you on the Columbus theory :thumbs_up: .

Hi Judik, thank you for your reply. Reading the general replies we have decided to spend 10 nights in the KTP and hire a 4x4 so that we can roam through the entire park without hitting any obstacles. Would give us a better impression of the vastness of the park. Thanks for sharing your personal favorites.
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