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How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by p@m » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:13 pm

Have actually seen that movie -- many moons ago :lol:

Dressing neatly for dinner in the formal dining room at camps & having dinner "announced" by beating the drums & gongs.

No tar at all, so driving back to Skuks, into the sunset & trying to peer through the dust created by huge herds of impala.

Low level bridges & "drifts" across the rivers.

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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by Hugh » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:21 pm

The real Hugh went to KNP for the first time in 1947.. now he has a few tales to tell :D I went for the first time in about 1955 with the school and it was army tents. and dust roads etc etc
at one time only Pretoriuskop was open in Summer ... can anyone remember that ?
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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by Grantmissy » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:15 pm

blommietjie wrote:No electric lights, only paraffin lamps. And a toilet-jug (ewer) and a stel dish for washing... Then there was a big black pot with a tap on oneside with fire underneath it and always full of boiling water were one could have fill up your small cettle for washing, coffee and cooking.


It sound like a lot of cleaning and maintenance of facilities were required. I wonder what the check-in, check-out times were in those days :D :thumbs_up:?
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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by jeffgordon » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:10 pm

I am afraid you are going to be a little disappointed when you see the film, MicMic.

The majority of the filming appears to have been done in Kenya with, I suspect, only a few close-up animal shots taken in the Park. I may just be misidentifying things, but the landscape in the film doesn't match anywhere I have seen in Kruger. At first I thought perhaps it was the hilly region around Berg en Dal, but it soon became clear that there were geological landmarks that are definitely not in Kruger.

The closing credits confirms that filming was done in Kenya but also mentions the Union of South Africa, and thanks is given to the governors of the Kruger National Park.

The film is actually available to view for free on a site called Blinkbox. If you have uncapped broadband, you may want to check it out and see if I am wrong about the locations. It's a passable film by the way, but toe-curlingly politically incorrect!

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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by Meandering Mouse » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:31 am

I went on a school tour to Kruger in about 1965. It was rather under-whelming. The lions would not oblige and all we seemed to see was lots of impies. We stayed in Pretorius Kop and spent a lot of time looking for someone's lost school shoes.

I also remember pea shooters, tired and irate teachers and a boy with horrible gastro.

I do remember with a certain fondness, the Stevenson Hamilton memorial. A ranger gave us a talk that kept me spell bound. After that I wanted to be a ranger.

then, I was told the earth shattering news :big_eyes: :big_eyes:

girls were not allowed to be rangers :wall: :wall: :wall:

I couldn't even find one to marry me :whistle:

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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by normana53 » Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:37 pm

It would have been interesting to see what it was like back then. I remember going to Yellowstone National Park in 1962 and having the bears come right up to your car and beg for food, now it is like Kruger, animals that learn that behaviour are removed or put down.
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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:16 am

:thumbs_up: Norm!
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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by micmic » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:57 pm

jeffgordon wrote:I am afraid you are going to be a little disappointed when you see the film, MicMic.

The majority of the filming appears to have been done in Kenya with, I suspect, only a few close-up animal shots taken in the Park. I may just be misidentifying things, but the landscape in the film doesn't match anywhere I have seen in Kruger. At first I thought perhaps it was the hilly region around Berg en Dal, but it soon became clear that there were geological landmarks that are definitely not in Kruger.

The closing credits confirms that filming was done in Kenya but also mentions the Union of South Africa, and thanks is given to the governors of the Kruger National Park.

The film is actually available to view for free on a site called Blinkbox. If you have uncapped broadband, you may want to check it out and see if I am wrong about the locations. It's a passable film by the way, but toe-curlingly politically incorrect!


Well, it's a bit disappointing indeed, but I collect a lot of films shot in African National Parks anyway. There are so many shot in Kenya and Tanzania and very few in other safari countries.


Political incorrectness was the norm back then! And conservation was uknown, too, in most movies. I've watched many old safari movies and I still cringe at how the animals were being shot or harassed - and that was passing as "bravery"!

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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by micmic » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:06 pm

How far back in time do you think we should go in order to find a greater variety and greater number of animals in Kruger than what there is today ?

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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by Duke Ellieton » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:05 pm

micmic, Stevenson Hamilton estimated 100 000 head of game in 1925. There were two breeding herds of elephant around Letaba, some nyala at Pafuri, few impala between Skukuza and Satara. A herd of buffalo that survived the rinderpest and occasional giraffe,sable and roan. Zebra, widebesst and waterbuck were common.

Today just impala exceed 100 000. I guess we have to go back way past 1925 to find a greater variety of game than we have today. Around 1870 you had the "gold rush" in the lowveld and hunting for the pot was rife.

The first organized expeditions to cross the lowveld were those led by Hans van rensburg and Louis Trichardt circa 1836

My guess would be around 1820/30 :hmz:

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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by micmic » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:19 pm

I have received the film mentioned above, and I thing it could have been mostly shot in Kruger. There's also a review in Amazon which suggests that only the elephant attack scene was filmed in Kenya. Indeed, in that scene the surroundings look East-African. But in the rest of the movie I would say the environment reminds more of Kruger.

A hint may be given by the Landrovers' registration numbers which have 5-digis and no letters, but maybe they were fake. From what I found out, during the 50s vehicles in both Kenya and South Africa did have letters too. But maybe the plate numbers for the park vehicles were different ?

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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by Meandering Mouse » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:11 am

Duke, you possibly have a point.

The ivory trade was brutal and decimated the animals. It was also thought that the wild animals were responsible for the Tsetse fly, so there was a period of wholesale slaughter when animals were piled high and left to rot. An absolute animal holocast.

Another problem was the erection of fences which halted the natural migration. Many animals died of starvation and thirst.
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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by ndloti » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:41 am

About the film on Kruger - at the height of the white lion awareness there was also one titled "White Lions of Timbavati" which I eagerly watched for a few minutes untill I saw parts of it were filmed in a lion park (it appeared to be the one between Johannesburg & Lanseria airport?) - the acting was very amateurish.
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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by normana53 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:41 am

Are you saying that the Lions couldn't act? They were probably amateurs, not in the Carnivore guild.
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Re: How was Kruger in the 50s-60s ?

Unread post by Meandering Mouse » Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:26 am

:funny:
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