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Lion identification: Nossob North and others

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Lion Identification, Nossob North

Unread post by kalahari mick » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:32 pm

The lion Mannie/Kwang and his partner have finally been identified. They are Freek and Jan. I have been in touch with Piet Heymans, and he has positively identified Mannie/Kwang as Freek. Piet has had problems logging into to the forum, but I am sure that when he can he will throw more light on the id's

The two males I saw south of Nossob and thought were Freek and Jan are definately not, as they stay in the north. So unless they have already been named, they can be.

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Unread post by heymans » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:48 pm

The male on the cover of the travelguide was Kwang.Taken 1998.Hy is die pa van Ousus en haar halfbroer David wat die pa is van Freek en Jan.Piet Heymans

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Unread post by DuQues » Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:10 pm

Lets see what the best translations is. I kept typing Dutch!
The male lion you have seen north of Nossob is called Freek. One of Ousus first succesfully raised sons. The other one is Jan, the smaller one of the brothers.. Their territory goes from Cubitje Quab to Kousant. The first photo is of his right side. The dot, space, dot of the top row of whiskers and the ear without notches in it is Freek. Jan's left and right ear have notches. Freek is the one taking the initiative, except at mating, where Jan keeps Freek at a distance.
They will soon be seven years old and you can expect the pair to split.
In april 2004 Ousus left their territory and moved into Botswana. As far as I know she's been seen twice and photographed by tourists. The last time was october 2006 in the Botswanaside of the dunes on a road near Mabuasehube.
There is also a couple of male lions south of Nossob, this couple is often confused with Freek and Jan.

Second post:
The male on the cover of the travelguide was Kwang. Taken 1998. He is the father of Ousus and her halfbrother David, which is the father of Freek and Jan.
Not posting much here anymore, but the photo's you can follow here There is plenty there.

Feel free to use any of these additional letters to correct the spelling of words found in the above post: a-e-t-n-d-i-o-s-m-l-u-y-h-c

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Unread post by Caracal » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:05 pm

I have just had a quick look in my book on Ousus and in October 1993 Ousus was almost a year old. At a brief look I was unable to find any exact dates......now I think I shall retire for the night and reread my book ...Ousus..Lady of the Kalahari
Thank you to everybody that has contributed to this thread
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Kgalagadi lion identification: Nossob South

Unread post by kalahari mick » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:27 pm

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These are the pics of the lion I saw In April 05, South of Maries Draai. I thought of calling him Rooikop.
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Unread post by Kgalagadi Guru » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:54 pm

Hi

I was browsing about here, and saw Arks& michele's comments regarding Ousus (RIP). The last sighting of her, by someone who's opinion I'd trust, was in late 2005, and already showing the characteristic hairloss of old lions. If she survived the winter of 2006, she didn't do so by much. As for Jan& Freek; the can be spotted anywhere between Rooikop and Bedinkt, but they prefer the northern parts.
You might spot some little fellows in Marie's; when i left there in July, we had a severely pregnant lioness sauntering about. As for the two males to be seen in the area between Marie's and Kaspersdraai... new guys/old guys; the disappeared off towards the central dunes in June'06, and we thought them gone for good (which was nice, as we had loads of cheetahs in Marie's), but they returned in Jan'07... Now, they and the cheetahs practice timesharing in the loop, but the cheetahs got the silly weekend... There's so many dead eland in the veldt, and the wildebeest are even more water dependant than usual due to the lack of tsamas, so the lions are all over the place. (you don't perhaps want some of them?? The more i can get rid of, the better the chances of the wild dogs becoming more common visitors!)
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Unread post by TonyW » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:04 pm

Could someone please let me know where I can get a copy of
Ousus..Lady of the Kalahari ?

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Unread post by Caracal » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:24 pm

I bought mine at the shop at Twee Rivieren...not sure whether I have seen it in our local bookstores. If you cannot find it locally a phone call to TR may help. Maybe they can post you one C.O.D. Or try Kalahari.net.

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Re: Kgalagadi lions: Ousus

Unread post by TonyW » Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:25 am

Finally after 3 years, I brought a copy at Nossob on my recent trip and my sister got her copy at Twee Riveren. :D :dance:

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Re: Kgalagadi lions: Ousus

Unread post by Munchkin » Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:55 am

We also bought a copy at Nossob on our latest trip and best of all, Oom Piet Heymans was at Nossob at the time and wrote in my book and signed it! :dance:
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Re: Kgalagadi lions: Ousus

Unread post by Tintin » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:26 am

Ousus - the Elsa of SA!
After many trips to KTP I eventually got to see Ousus and the cubs she had at the time, it was in 2002. Then she was with a male called Scar I believe. I sent some photos to Oom Piet just to make sure it was her and he confirmed.
This was near Kwang and it was wonderful to see her...just a couple of the pics!

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lion with broken jaw (old badmouth)

Unread post by Indiajane » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:25 pm

as he seems to be called. KG I wonder if you know the history behind this lion - any idea of what might have caused the injury? A kick from a Gemsbok? Tobieo has a recent photograph of him on his trip report and he looks quite thin - when I last saw him he was in wonderful condition - but that was a year ago now. I think this is one of the best things about this park, that year after year you see the same animals and can keep track of them through sightings on the forums.

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Re: LION IDENTIFICATION: Broken jaw...

Unread post by anne-marie » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:53 pm

:hmz: I think I saw this Lion (Broken Jaw) once more, but not very healthy :(

The Lion, the Porcupine's kills ... and maybe... "Brocken jaw" (16/17/18/31.1.2012) at Craig Lockhardt
they were here 3 days in a raw... maybe more...
and his misery compagnion, with the quills

16.1
Image broken jaw... slobbering :?

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17.1 try to give a song... but nothing go out :?

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18.1 ... licking the Giraffe, who was put down on the begining of January !!!

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31.1 only one (not the same ?)… seems to be in good form... where are the two others :shock:

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THE MANE BROTHERS

Unread post by Dwyka3 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:39 am

Hi everybody!
I'm new to the forums and this is a first for me.
I visited the Kgalagadi in February 2012 and would love to share a few pics of the so-called
Mane Brothers of the Auob river. Correct me if I'm wrong!
We were driving from Twee Rivieren towards Mata Mata when we found this magnificent male lion
under a tree to the left side of the road near the turnoff to the lower dune road.
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Mane Brother 4 by carien8, on Flickr

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Mane Brother 5 by carien8, on Flickr

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Mane Brother 6 by carien8, on Flickr

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Mane Brother 7 by carien8, on Flickr

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Mane Brother 8 by carien8, on Flickr

Intently watching wildebeest going by in the riverbed
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Mane Brother 9 by carien8, on Flickr

We left him in peace and drove onwards towards Mata Mata. At about 3 kms onwards this enormous,
very blonde lion, stood up from behind bushes to the left side of the road. He had a brandmark 7 on
his left thigh, in trouble some time?! He crossed the road and walked all along the riverbed towards
Auchterlonie, almost as if on a mission somewhere.
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Mane Brother 1 by carien8, on Flickr


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Mane Brother 2 by carien8, on Flickr

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Mane Brother 3 by carien8, on Flickr

It was only when the two lions started running towards each other that we realised them to be
related. It sure was a heartwarming experience! They greeted as only lions do.
What fascinated me was the fact that although they were almost 3 kms apart, they were
perfectly aware of each other!
Lions never fail to amaze me!!

The greeting
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Mane Brothers 10 by carien8, on Flickr

Enough for now, hope you will enjoy my little story!

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Re: THE MANE BROTHERS

Unread post by Dwyka3 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:13 pm

Thanks very much for the replies!!
Is there somebody else who maybe have pics of these two? Luv to see.
Maybe Jannie can tell us more about brandmarks on certain lions.
The brandmark on the blonde male lion was a T and not a 7, sorry!!
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