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Snake: Olive Whip/Grass (Psammophis mossambicus)

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Jarrod28
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Snake: Olive Whip/Grass

Unread post by Jarrod28 » Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:01 pm

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Found it in Nylstroom next to a dam while fishing for bass.

It moved very quickly on the ground and well in the tree. It wasn't aggressive at all juts curious even when I took photos very close.
It has the colouring of a female Boomslang but I dont think the eyes are big enough.
Perhaps a grass snake or olive coloured watersnake (I don't know snakes that well).

It was about 90cm long and brownish olive colour above with a badge/pale yellow below.

Is it a female Boomslang?

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Re: Hey guys could you please help me identify this snake

Unread post by Bobbi Jane » Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:46 pm

It is not a Boomslang! It does look like an Olive Whipsnake / grass snake.
"....This snake (Olive Whipsnake) is often found near water, or in marsh areas. It lives in moist savannah and lowland forest biomes.

The colour of the snake is usually uniform olive brown (hence the name) or with black edged scales on the back, creating longitudinal dark lines. Often with speckles on the neck and head. (see Photos)
The underside is white to yellowish, often darker with speckles.

Adults may reach a maximum lenght of 1.8 meters.

This snake feeds on small reptiles and mammals, frogs, birds and other snakes. (Even Puff Adders and Mambas)

This snake is not dangerous to man, but a bite would be painful, the venom is only mild and may cause local pain and swelling.

The snake is mostly diurnal, and is a very active fast moving snake. It can also move with the front third of its body lifted off the ground like a Black Mamba. This is a very shy snake and would dissappear quickly when approached....." -acknowledge Louis v Niekerk on Web

Here it says it is very shy which your snake was not. Some other snake perhaps? :hmz:
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Re: Hey guys could you please help me identify this snake

Unread post by Jarrod28 » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:12 pm

May well have been shy.

It fled to the bush from the path for cover, and that is where I got the closeup photos.
Once I gave it some room it moved away quickly. But it may well have stayed so still in the bush even when I got so close for protection rather than curiosity.

Thanks for the quick response.

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Re: Hey guys could you please help me identify this snake

Unread post by vaughng » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:20 pm

definitly a olive whipsnake

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Re: Identification help: Snakes

Unread post by BushKrazy » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:43 pm

Hi all

Any idea on this snake spotted near Lower Sabie this weekend.

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Re: Identification help: Snakes

Unread post by wildheart » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:03 am

Can you please tell me what snake this one is, it was on the H1-6 close to Shingwedzi? Thanks.

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Re: Identification help: Snakes

Unread post by ross hawkins » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:20 pm

Wildheart this chap could be one o the whip snakes formerly Sand Snakes and Grass Snakes.

My reasoning is that there is no gloss for it to be Mozambique, the color and thickness is not right for a Snouted Cobra, teh head you can see is is almost rounded so it would rule out Mamba. The size says no to Boomslang as if this were Boomslang it would be juvenile and then a two tone color.

The long tail also rules out the cobras n mamba.

A mole Snake would be a lot fatter than this guy and the flash you say would aslo point to Whip Snakes

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Re: Identification help: Snakes

Unread post by wildheart » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:39 pm

It does look very similar to an Olive Whip snake. :thumbs_up:

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Re: Identification help: Snakes

Unread post by flying cheetah » Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:41 pm

Magic Guarri wrote:
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These pics were already posted last year by my sister but nobody was sure what this snake is. So I will try again, maybe MacAdder can help here :wink: We saw this snake last year in May in Umfolozi/KZN, it seemed it was injured by a car :(
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Re: Identification help: Snakes

Unread post by MacAdder » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:37 pm

Bobbi Jane wrote:McAdder, I think it is rather a Olive Whip Snake. The head & eyes do not match those of a Boomslang.
The eagle is indeed a Tawny Eagle!


Bobbi I did notice that the eye was a wee bit small to be a Boom and never considered an Olive Wipe. I have nearly zero knowledge of eagles so if you say it’s a Tawny Eagle then it must be. :D
Organisms are created for a certain habituate change is bad.

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Re: Identification help: Snakes

Unread post by nyami » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:45 pm

Thanks Anne Maria!
Bobbi Jane is correct that is a Olive Whip snake(Psammophis mossambica)

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Re: Identification help: Snakes

Unread post by rakesh » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:26 pm

The olivewhip venom is not dangerous to man but can cause pain, swelling and nausea.

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Re: Identification help: Snakes

Unread post by nyami » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:31 pm

H. Erectus,

Olive Whip Snakes are "mildly venomous" back fanged snakes and are generally considered not to be dangerous to humans. Having said that however, they should be treated with caution as there venom is largely unstudied and there are a few bites on record which have resulted in fairly severe symptoms. Most bites will result in localised swelling and pain which resolves in a few days.
cheers

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Re: Identification help: Snakes

Unread post by nyami » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:39 pm

H. Erectus,
In Southern Africa and the rest of Africa for that matter, the snakes which we currently refer to as Whip Snakes all belong to the genus Psammophis. They used to called either grass or sand snakes depending on the species.

General info:
They are small to large snakes with the head distinct from the neck. The eye is medium to large in size with a round pupil.
The grooved back fangs are large and sit just behind the eye in the top jaw. The anterior mandibular teeth are distinctly enlarged and can give the impression that these snake have two sets of fangs.
They are fast active diurnal hunters which prey on a large variety of small invertebrates such as rodents, lizard and even other snakes. Although they have venom some species utilize constriction in conjuction with the venom to subdue prey. Most species inhabit savannah, arid scrubland and grasslands. They are oviparous - egg layers. cheers

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Please help us identify this snake

Unread post by ralph and lenny » Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:26 pm

Hi all,

On our september trip, we saw a total of 3 different snakes.
One was a tiger snake, and the other one was a little silver snake.
Now the 3rd snake is a mystery to us, maybe one of you can identify it?
Here are some pictures:

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Thanks!

Ralph and Lenny


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