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Re: Antelope: Sable

Unread post by flying cheetah » Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:42 pm

Wonderful sightings and pics Bushbaby :clap: :clap: :thumbs_up:
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Re: Sable Antelope

Unread post by Bobong » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:40 pm

I am a guide operating out of Phalaborwa and no, haven't seen Sable here for ages. Used to see them plenty. Have been getting good sightings of the other rare antelope but my favourite spot for Sable is that entire S36 - as mentioned above.

Now outside Phalaborwa I see them plenty but that doesn't count - on a game farm specifically breeding them. But still nice and makes driving to Tzaneen a pleasure!

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Re: Sable Herds in Kruger (ID thread)

Unread post by Barcud » Sun May 22, 2011 4:41 pm

Hi Martie,

Not sure if these are what you are after, they are almost three years old now, but maybe they are still around? At least it will get the ball rolling on this thread? They were at Rooibosrant dam on the 19th July 2008.

Apologies for one or two of the blurred pics, but they might help to ID the individual.

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Adult and younger bull.
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Adult Bull left side.
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Adult Bull right side.
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Adult Bull Front view.
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Adult Bull looking to it's left.
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Adult Bull looking to it's right.
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Younger Bull.
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Re: Sable Herds in Kruger (ID thread)

Unread post by hilda » Tue May 24, 2011 7:49 am

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Hi Martie,

Here are some pictures of a sable we saw on 12 September 2010 on the H1-2 between Skukuza and Tshokwane at the Mantimahie Dam. I cannot remember the time, but it was in the afternoon. (My camera's time was not set correctly, stupid me!) Unfortunately the pictures are not of a very good quality, because it was far away. But it is such a beautiful creature, that I tried to capture it never mind the distance. It was only the one sable, and we never expected it on this road anyway.

I am wondering about all the sable that Californiadreamer saw during his visit to KNP recently. According to his trip report, he saw them quite regularly, :roll: but never posted any pictures of them. I have asked him about it, but he did not respond. I am still wondering if he wasn't confused with kudus and thought it was sable, because he saw them much too often. This is only the second one that I saw in all the years we went to KNP. The first one was many moons ago on the bank of the Letaba River (at Letaba). Unfortunately I do not have a picture of that one.

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Re: Sable Herds in Kruger (ID thread)

Unread post by Mgoddard » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:09 am

Sorry it took me so long to get back here, but it actually turned out to be a massive task :shock: I have tried to break down the different sightings into the following categories:

Sable around PKop/Voortrekker Road
Sable south of Nhlanguleni on the S36
Sable North of Nhlanguleni, Talamati, S140 etc
Sable North of Satara

I downloaded all the pics posted on the Sable thread, those emailed to me and those posted here. I decided to concentrate on the bulls and hopefully later on we can add the "ladies"

Unfortunately as mentioned before not all pics are close ups which makes it difficult to actually ID individuals....but I hope that you will help out by looking at the different sets and we can at least name one or two from each area to start with.


Here are the links....
Sable North of Nhlanguleni
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgoddard2007/sets/72157626980867970/

Sable South of Nhlanguleni

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgoddard2007/sets/72157626980822948/


Sable around Pretoriuskop/Voortrekker Road
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgoddard2007/sets/72157626980845706/

Sable North of Satara
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgoddard2007/sets/72157626856356861/

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Re: Sable Herds in Kruger (ID thread)

Unread post by Mgoddard » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:22 am

Further to the above, I noticed the following:

A smallish herd North of Nhlanguleni (10 - 15 animals)
2 Lone bulls in the same area (maybe broke away from the big herd around Jones Dam)
Big herd (20+ animals) below Nhlanguleni, Jones Dam, Kruger tablets area
Small herd around PKop (8-12 animals)
2 Lone bulls around same area but up to Transport Dam
Small herd around Bateleur/Rooibosrant dam
2 Lone bulls North of Mopani

Now Im thinking, the lone bulls in the area will probably start thier own herds....will we see more sightings north of Satara with the small herd and the lone bulls

Are we going to see more herds on the S36, South of Nhlanguleni is already a big herd, will the lone bulls start thier own herds and spread out further in this area??

Very interesting that in 2004 the herd seen around Jones Dam were about 12 - 15 animals..now in the region on 20+


The small herd of about 15 (North of Nhalanguleni were reported to be about 8 animals around 2007

Please remember Im not an expert on Sable, :shock: :redface:
Just trying to get it all toghether

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Re: Sable Herds in Kruger (ID thread)

Unread post by Mgoddard » Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:37 pm

I hope you all that is interested in Sable in Kruger can come up with some names for the bulls.....???? I concentrated on them rather than the ladies...one name comes to mind....RP....as I think he is as elusive to many of you, including myself, as the Sable in Kruger :shock: :lol: Im not very good at remembering names....so think will leave it to the Forum to decide on names for the dark face one seen around Jones dam...and the other 2 around Talamati.......then we get onto the others??? :?

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Re: Sable Herds in Kruger (ID thread)

Unread post by o-dog » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:28 pm

Hi Mgoddard...see you the one doing this thread...well done :thumbs_up:


I have a suggestion that when it comes to naming of individuals or herds that they are named after areas/roads/waterholes in which they are most frequently viewed or perhaps of a specific visual abnormality (skew horns or freak colouration etc) if such occurs. For example, the Jones Dam Bull, or the Mudzanzeni breeding herd. This keeps it far more professional than peoples/forumite names and actually apart from adding scientific value becomes an easy point of reference to the sable you are talking about. Can you imagine if we keep sending in pics of the o-dog Bull or the Mgoddard Bull...noone will know who you referring to (if they havn't learned this thread off by heart) while if its named after the area it will be of far greater value.
I mention this point as that's what we do in the Sabi Sands with leopard/lion prides etc where huge data bases occur for many of the animals.
Ofcourse it your choice in the end but at the end of the day it will go a long way into determining the value of this thread.

Anyway keep it up and hopefully I will be supporting you with some current pics as my last ones are from 2005 and I think this is too long ago.

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Re: Antelope: Sable

Unread post by Boorgatspook » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:45 pm

And at last, an antelope that I have searched for many years :dance:

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Re: Sable Herds in Kruger (ID thread)

Unread post by Mgoddard » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:17 pm

Here we go, I think :lol: I have only taken the close up pics where possible...also keep in mind that some of the pics for all of these dates from 2004 to 2011 :shock:

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Re: Sable Herds in Kruger (ID thread)

Unread post by cicboy » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:35 pm

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Re: Antelope: Sable

Unread post by Richprins » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:52 pm

This off the gallery page, by Rudi Koekemoer North of Mopani!

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I tells ya, these northern animals are darker and more shaggy! :clap:

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Re: Antelope: Sable

Unread post by adw » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:28 am

During my recent Sept trip I was fortunate to spot a herd of 13 Sable including an adult bull. I tracked this herd for at least 15 minutes in the thick bush near Jones se dam before I was able to get a clear photo of the bull as he crossed the S36.

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Re: Antelope: Sable

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:32 pm

What a majestic bull adw :thumbs_up:
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Re: Antelope: Sable

Unread post by flying cheetah » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:07 pm

Amazing sighting and fantastic pic :clap: :clap:
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