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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Barcud » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:38 pm

Hi MM,

The one with the Drongo is a Wahlberg's Eagle (Colour difference between head and back, bill size and shape, slight crest).

Great sighting, I'm a tad :mrgreen:

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Ferdelance » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:25 am

Hi everyone.

Got an Eagle on the Birding weekend in Punda Maria. Was seen on the Mahonie loop. Lizet had a look at it on my camera but it didn't show that well because of the poor light. She said it looked like a Wahlbergs. Does look like one. Just confirming it. So here is the large form:

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Re: Eagle: Wahlberg's

Unread post by Johann » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:48 pm

Pafuri region, Jan 2011.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by sandeep » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:46 am

Hi I am back with a couple of more requests for ID pl

and this is the 2nd raptor

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Thanks for the help...

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by DotDan » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:15 pm

I am going to differ with number 2.

This raptor is rather interesting and could IMO be one of two things

1. It could be an intermediate/immature form of a Pale Wahlbergh's Eagle. The general giss of the bird is quite right for Wahlbergs, but I have never seen a pale form WE with a dark brown head which points me to the second option

2. Booted Eagle. The white pale coloration underneath all the way down the the tail, the slight streaking on the chest. In picture 2 I almost want to say I see a sign of "landing lights" on the shoulders.

The only thing that makes me question the Booted Eagle theory is the all brown head, normally it will have a brown head, neck and sides but a bit less on the throat where this bird is dark all around the head.

Any more photo's of this raptor?

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Johan van Rensburg » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:32 am

DotDan wrote:

It could be an intermediate/immature form of a Pale Wahlbergh's Eagle. The general giss of the bird is quite right for Wahlbergs, but I have never seen a pale form WE with a dark brown head


Not immature... Wahlberg's are known for their diversity in colour forms and this variant is a well-known adult form as shown by Warwick Tarboton on his webpage for the Wahlberg's eagle.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Lizet Grobbelaar » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:23 pm

sandeep,

Bird2: :thumbs_up: Wahlberg's Eagle: as JvR said, they can vary a lot, dark eye and longish unbarred black tail, beak not as fearsome as Tawny's...

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Unread post by Richprins » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:21 pm

Hey, sandeep!

What time of year was it that you took your pics?

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by sandeep » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:41 pm

Thanks for all the help and the responses. Unfortunately I do not have any more pics of either of the raptors. These pics were taken in KNP in Jan 2010 - over a year back. While I cannot recollect where exactly these ones were taken, on that trip I basically covered Skukuza and south of Skukuza - Berg en Dal/ Lower Sabie. So this would be that area.

The 2nd raptor left me zapped :hmz: and my limited knowledge came a cropper :). While the chest was white, there were no markings like the typical ones for a martial, but then it did not look like all the immature martials that I had seen either...The dark colouring all around the head did resemble a martial though :hmz: to be honest the booted eagle never even struck me and neither did the Wahlberg possibility enter my head...

Anyway I hope the location and period may give some of you a better idea and would be grateful for any further advise

thanks and regards

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Richprins » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:17 pm

:thumbs_up:

I think they are both Wahlbergs...definitely the 2nd one!

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Johann » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:40 am

@Sandeep

Listen to the lady :wink: Lizet had it on the money.

Here's a pic of your second bird (one very similar in any case) in flight, clearly showing a Wahlberg's wing pattern.

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Re: Eagle: Wahlberg's

Unread post by Richprins » Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:57 pm

Hello!

What may be a pale wahlberg's...Talamati area this month! (Conflicting opinions on Raptor ID!)

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One of a group of 4 eating termites, the others looking like this:

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Bad light, unfortunately! :redface:

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Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Gregor » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:45 am

Well, here they are:

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Traveltale june 2011 (Botswana & SA)
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Gregor » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:32 am

Trevor Hardaker wrote:Gregor,

Thanks for emailing through the higher res pics to me - it helped in that I was able to zoom in to the birds and try and get a little more detail out of it. For the benefit of everyone else, I will post my thoughts here rather than replying to your email directly.

2. This one is fairly straight forward in that it gives the typical crested appearance of a Wahlberg's Eagle. This, combined with the proportionately weak bill, eliminate most of the other brown candidates.

Hope this helps.









First of all Trevor,

I would like to thank you for your help and giving such great effort!
For pic 2 I drew the same conclusion, so probably no doubts about it.
Traveltale june 2011 (Botswana & SA)
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Mgoddard » Tue May 10, 2011 1:21 pm

Here is the next one, taken just before the highwater bridge outside Skukuza. At first I thought it was the same African Crowned Eagle that I saw previously along this road, but now I dont know. I will post 2 pics, sorry they not very good as it was very nervous with the prey and flew all over the tree making it very difficult to get pictures.

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