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Re: Canon EOS 7D - Feedback Please

Unread postby McLeanMike » Fri May 21, 2010 3:20 am

Apologies for going slightly off-topic but I could not pass-up the opportunity with so much photographer talent participating in this thread.

I am wondering what minimum telephoto lens you would recommend for Kruger. I am concerned an EF 70-200mm f/4L USM will not provide sufficient capability but I defer to the experts. If not, I would appreciate your view on the range of alternatives including a teleconverter, renting something like a EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM, or buying a less expensive 300mm.

Again, apologies for the diversion. I greatly appreciate your guidance.

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Re: Canon EOS 7D - Feedback Please

Unread postby DuQues » Fri May 21, 2010 9:43 am

Depends on what you want to photograph...

The 70-200 in combination with your 7D (?) will happily use a teleconverter, making it a 98-280 lens which is still very sharp.
For general wildlife that's a fair length, but for birding it will be too short. It is the cheapest solution though, the converter only costs R3000 or such, and your lens will become a little more versatile.

The 100-400 is a perfect lens for Kruger, but will not have autofocus on most cameras with a teleconverter. You'll not really need the TC though, in most cases I found my 100-400 to be good enough.

The 300 mm f/4 is 1259 euro, and will take the TC, giving you a 420 mm very sharp lens.
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Re: Canon EOS 7D - Feedback Please

Unread postby Morkel777 » Fri May 21, 2010 1:26 pm

@NickyG - thanks so much :)

@McLeanMike - DuQues makes some fine suggestions. I have found that zoom lenses on teleconverters degrade image quality too much (at least for zoom lenses costing less than R50,000!). I use my 100-400 in Kruger all the time, and the versatility is awesome. The 100mm isn't so long as to make close sightings unpractical to capture.
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Re: Canon EOS 7D - Feedback Please

Unread postby AndyM » Fri May 21, 2010 2:14 pm

If you have the funds available and are only going to Kruger once (I thought I was only going to go once but am already planning my next trip!) I would consider hiring a big lens.

Last time I went I hired a Canon 600mm, its a beast but you'll get some great shots.
The 600mm stayed on my 40D while I also took a 50D which was on my 100-400mm.

If you are into wildlife photography, this may be an option. The big lens are perfect for shooting from a car and with a rubber rest on the car window shooting is quick and easy.

Heres a couple of examples from the 600mm...
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Canon 100-400mm USM lens - Yes or No

Unread postby Bushbuddies » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:26 pm

Okay - a quick question. Know someone who is currently in Hong Kong and can get me the Canon 100-400mm lens (new) for about R13000. What would be your opinion - ask her to get it for me or not? A lot of money - so want a bit of advise before buying it. Currently my biggest lens is the 55-250. And the object, of course - wildlife in SANParks!
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Re: Canon 100-400mm USM lens - Yes or No

Unread postby DuQues » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:44 pm

That is about the same price as here (in Holland).

If you want a very good lens, sharp, with a nice bokeh I would certainly buy it.
I have it myself, and it's a great lens, which will do you fine outside the parks too. Bit of an overkill for weddings and such parties, but for the rest?
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Re: Canon 100-400mm USM lens - Yes or No

Unread postby Shutterbug » Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:21 am

IMHO this would be the best Canon zoom for wildlife, like all good lenses it will hold its value for many years to come, so i have no problem with spending a ton of money on a good lens because i know that when i sell it i will be able to get about 70%-80% of its new price, unlike digital bodies, also the Canon 100-400 is a hot item, should have no problem off loading it if you want to.

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Re: Canon 100-400mm USM lens - Yes or No

Unread postby Touareg » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:11 am

Go ahead and get it. Its a great lens. Best price in Cape Town from Orms and R15000. You may get off a few rand on this. Stunning all round lens for nature and sport. Doesn't work well with the 2.0 extender though. Not sure of the 1.4.
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Re: Canon 100-400mm USM lens - Yes or No

Unread postby DuQues » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:52 am

Touareg wrote:Doesn't work well with the 2.0 extender though. Not sure of the 1.4.

The 1.4 works like a charm on this lens. I have made thousands of photos with the combination.
Just a little problem, you need a camera which will continue with Autofocus up to f/8. Most don't, just the 1 series, and the EOS 3 (film).
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Re: Canon 100-400mm USM lens - Yes or No

Unread postby Shutterbug » Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:58 pm

The 1.4 works like a charm on this lens. I have made thousands of photos with the combination.
Just a little problem, you need a camera which will continue with Autofocus up to f/8. Most don't, just the 1 series, and the EOS 3 (film).


Hi DuQues,

I have the Canon 1D MkIV, are you saying that the Canon Extender EF 1.4x II will work 100% with the 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS zoom lens on this body, the guys at the local camera shop said it wouldn't work but I must say that I value your opinion more than anyone else, if it does that will be great because the 1D has a 1.3 crop and then you multiply that by 1.4 and I will end up getting 728mm out of my 400mm lens :D gotta love that in KNP.

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Re: Canon 100-400mm USM lens - Yes or No

Unread postby NightOwl » Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:25 pm

Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong.

The 1D range bodies autofocus on the centre point up to f8.

Hence your 100-400 + 1.4 Extender = f8 Which means you'll still have autofocus on the centre point.

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Re: Canon 100-400mm USM lens - Yes or No

Unread postby DuQues » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:27 pm

NightOwl wrote:Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong.

The 1D range bodies autofocus on the centre point up to f8.

Hence your 100-400 + 1.4 Extender = f8 Which means you'll still have autofocus on the centre point.

That's correct. Centerpoint only, but you are reaching anyway, so that doesn't matter, you're not making compositions.
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Re: Canon 100-400mm USM lens - Yes or No

Unread postby Shutterbug » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:48 pm

Thanks DuQues, thats great news :D I am now on the hunt for a used 1.4 extender, also found this useful info on the Canon extender for those that are interested.

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80-200 Nikon F2.8d ed or Sigma 150-500

Unread postby Horrace » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:00 pm

Hi to all on the forum, my first post in this section. I am at the point in my photography adventures where quality of shot is becomming as important to me as composition. I am now in a position to add to my Nikon 70-300VR on a D90 and cannot decide if I should by some "pro-glass" with the Nikon 80-200 f2.8D or go for the reach with the Sigma 150-500 :hmz:

I have just started shooting in manual and am enjoying the challenge of getting the technical side of photography correct (I.E. me taking the shot and not the camera). Please help. Do I invest in quality or reach (both lenses at simillar price and at my budget ceiling). All input will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: 80-200 Nikon F2.8d ed or Sigma 150-500

Unread postby RUMURUTI » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:54 pm

Hi Horrace,
I'm a Nikon man from the very beginning and still haven't figured out which are the best lenses.
I work with a D80 and a D90 and until recently used all sorts of zoom, the biggest being my Nikon 80-400 f/4.5. Then I started buying fixed lenses and only then saw the difference on quality.
Zoom lenses are great for their versatility but you have a noticeable loss in quality on the long focus. My recent acquisitions are a Nikon 105 mm f/2.8 Micro and a Sigma 300 mm f/2.8. Both fantastic glasses and give great results.
Taken with my 105mm:
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Slightly cropped but dead sharp.

It really all depends on your budget, I'd personally go for the 150-500 which would give you decent range in the bush.
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