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Unread postby Andreas Cierpka » Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:40 pm

Many thanks for the post - quite handy! :thumbs_up:

Currently planing our trip and being busy collecting all the information.
Can one confirm who crossed the border SA -> MOZ recently that we can obtain the third party insurance there?
As we do have a rental car it's quite complicated for us to get that one in advance.
I know that the Gr. Limpopo Website mentions that it can be obtained in Massingir but that's not our direction.
We are heading north towards Banhine.

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Unread postby Jumbo » Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:15 am

Andreas, when we went through Giriyondo in April, the Mozambican officials confirmed that you can obtain the 3rd party insurance at the border post (at the tourism office)
I’m sure it will still be available seeing that it is compulsory.
However if you are worried about it, and you are passing through Nelspruit, you can get the insurance at the AA Shop…situated in the Crossings Mall (next to N4)
Another option is to contact the SANParks officials at Giriyondo gate…
I however see that their contact detail are not displayed on the website…maybe Diannet can assist you with the detail?

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Unread postby Jumbo » Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:34 am

Andreas Cierpka wrote:The Crossing Mall is before or after the R40 coming from Johannesburg?


Andreas

The mall is actually situated on the corner of the R40 and N4 junction (on you left coming from JHB)….the mall also has nice shops for stocking-up.
The contact detail of the AA shop can be found HERE
The page also has an email address if you wish to contact them beforehand.

The mall also has an Exchange where you can get some Meticais (ask for small currency…change is an “issue” at the border post)

Jumbo

Unread postby Jumbo » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:25 am

Some helpful links:

Contact detail for Pafuri and Giriyondo border posts can be found on the following website.
The site has detail on all SA ports of entry and are also updated regularly with the estimated waiting/queuing times at the various posts (although I believe the current 45 min for Lebombo is a complete underestimation!) :roll:
RSA Borders


A PDF document setting out the regulations for Mozambican customs: Allowances and Exemptions

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Unread postby Jumbo » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:21 am

Just a warning to people planning to visit Mozambique:
As from 1 Jan 2007, the old notes and coins of the Mozambican currency is no longer a legal tender.
The new currency has 3 digest less than the old.
Example: The old 1 000 Metical coin is now 1 Mt and the old 500 000 Metical note is now 500 Metical.
Check that you get the new currency when changing money in SA and Moz, and also make sure that you get the right currency as change when trading in Moz.

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Unread postby DuQues » Wed May 09, 2007 1:14 pm

cookie wrote:does anyone know if you can enter the new Great Limpopo Transfrontier Park at the Pafuri Border Gate or any of the other gates ONLY for the day? It's hard to find info on this.

mountainview wrote:I would like to find out the same info, although I have heard that past Giryondo there is not much birdlife, with people still living and utilising the reserve heavily in terms of goats, cattle and villages. Is the same situation found at Pafuri?

As far as I know, but I stand to be corrected, daytrips are not possible yet.
Have a look at these two sites:
http://www.greatlimpopopark.com/
http://www.dolimpopo.com
There are trails available, the pricelist can be found here.

MV: For birding there is probably no better part of Kruger than Pafuri. No cattle whatsoever, it is a National Park, unless you want to count the gracefull nyala as cattle.

{I'll be moving these posts from this topic to the GLTP topic later.}
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Any Change on 4X4 Requirements on Moz side?

Unread postby Mike Rex » Tue May 29, 2007 3:57 pm

I have read all sorts of views about this but no one seems to know if you can go into the Moz side with a normal vehicle.

Is it allowed?
Is it allowed but not advisable?
Is it allowed and OK?

I would also like to know if a one day round trip to the dam is feasible and what the camping facilities at Fish Eagle Camp are like.


Thank you

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Unread postby DuQues » Tue May 29, 2007 4:10 pm

I'll not be much help, but if I look in my Honeyguide at the map of the Mozzie part of GLTP only the road from Giriyondo gate to Massingir dam/gate would appear to be suitable for normal sedans. All other roads are 4x4 only.
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Re: Limpopo side safety

Unread postby Jumbo » Wed May 30, 2007 7:30 am

Tjaart wrote:Do you believe the Moz side unsafe, or rather, not that comfortable to travel?


The Moz side is a lot more safer that the streets of Sasolburg :wink:
When we went through the park, the road was a bit uncomfortable to travel on ….almost 2 ½ hrs to travel 80 km

Tjaart wrote:WIll one have interference from locals past Giriyondo border post?


The locals will not interfere with you if you do not interfere with them.
Also remember, it is seen as very rude to take photos of them without asking permission first.
This is not a moneymaking scheme…it is a sign of respect.

Tjaart wrote:Secondly, I will be camping at Letaba (July 2007) and was planning to tak a day trip to Massingir dam. By reading all the postings, it seems that that might be a bit to much for a one day trip?


You should be able to make it to Massingir and back ….if it is worth the while….IMHO, no.
Also at the dam wall, there is a lot of construction going on…when we went past there it was one big construction site.

Mike Rex wrote:I have read all sorts of views about this but no one seems to know if you can go into the Moz side with a normal vehicle.


According to the “rules” you are only allowed to go through there with a 4x4….they however do let normal vehicles go through. :roll:
I would not advice you to try and do it with a sedan …there are spots with think sand and the road is very narrow, thus if there is a vehicle approaching from the front you often have to give way by getting onto the very think sand on the road fringes…. depending on who wins the “chicken” game :twisted:

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Unread postby DuQues » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:11 am

Why go outside and miss the early light that is so important to photography? The early bird catches the cat...

There is a campsite at Massinger dam called Campismo Aguia Resquira at S23 51.422 E32 00.431 Turn off from main road at S23 48.468 E31 58.969 (WGS84 hddd'mm.mmm').
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Machampane Wilderness Trail

Unread postby glynn » Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:15 pm

Has anyone done the Machampane Wilderness Trail in Parque Nacional do Limpopo and if so what was the experience like.
Understand you can also book accommodation in this unfenced luxury en-suite tented camp between Friday's and Monday's when there isn't a trail in progress.
The camp is about 35 kms south of the Giriyondo border post in the area that has been restocked by Kruger under an agreement between the two parks.
Hear that they have good animal sightings on foot and that birding is outstanding.
Have you got any feedback for me?

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Unread postby PinkNosedPenguin » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:40 pm

Hi all, take a look here
http://www.africandream.org/africa/MOZ/ACRixBushMOZ
for the so called 'bush to beach' route from Giriyondo to the Moz coast.

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Unread postby Johann » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:48 pm

francoisd wrote:I... But on Monday evening on the SA nature program 50/50 they showed an insert of a tour operator that takes people camping in the Mozambique side. Although only low population figures they showed giraffe, impala, zebra, elephant and herds of sable...


They did mention that even though they only translocated 111 (if I remember correctly) elephants the current count at the end of 2007 was about 850. Lots of elephants had moved over by themselves.
The herds of sable are also bigger than the ones in Kruger and are apparently doing very well.
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Mozambique Camps

Unread postby johannesdewet » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:32 am

I'm wondering - does anyone have information to share about the 'Mozambique side' of Kruger? I noticed a couple of new camps were built, but wasn't sure about:

1. Game concentrations compared to Kruger
2. Atmosphere in Moz camps.
3. Road conditions

Any help/adice appreciated!

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Unread postby DuQues » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:15 pm

Some of the latest information:

Roads:
The roads are accessible by either 4x4 or high ground clearance vehicles.
The LNP does not recommend sedans at present.

At present two routes can be used in the park, i.e. firstly the access road between Giriyondo border gate and Massingir.
The second road is the road north, i.e. towards Mapai.

Accommodation:

* Machampane Wilderness Trails Camp.
This is luxury tented accommodation run by private operator and is situated about 30 km from Giriyondo border gate. This includes all meals and guided wilderness walks.
To book there one has to contact the private operator on 021 701-7860 (Marichen).
* Campiso Aguia Pesqueira.
This is a camp operated by the park itself and is situated about 55 km from Giriyondo border gate and about 25 km from Massingir.
t consists of two nodes.
Each node has ablution (showers and toilets) and kitchen (counters and running water) facilities.
The first node is called the overlander and caters for big groups who wish to camp together.
The second node consists of individual, very secluded camp sites.
All the camp sites (the overlander as well as the individual camp sites) have magnificent views of the dam.
There is no electricity in the camp.
At present we are in the process of erecting chalets there as well.
Each chalet will consist of a bathroom en suite and kitchenette and will sleep 2 people and bedding and towels will be provided as well crockery and cutlery for 2, a small two plate stove and a skottel-braai outside.
* Campismo Albufeira. This camp is situated about 70 km from Giriyondo border gate and is at our entrance/exit gate at Massingir. Albufeira consists of both chalets and camping sites.
Each chalet consists of a bathroom en suite, kitchenette, two single beds, bedding, towels, crockery and cutlery, small two plate stove, pots and pans and a skottelbraai outside.
There is electricity at this camp from about 09h00-12h00 and then again from 18h00-22h00.
* Campismo Sandalo.
This is a very basic camp site with showers and toilets on the route north towards Mapai.
* Campismo Nhampfule.
This is basic camp site with showers and toilets and is on the boundary of the park (near Mapai).

You can view the chalets or the view from Aguia Pesqueira on Peace Parks Foundation's website, i.e. http://www.peaceparks.org.
Then log onto the Great Limpopo Transfrontier Park.

There no longer appears to be a problem with the bringing in of foodstuffs.
However, beer, hard liquor and fuel appear to be a problem and Customs place quite heavy taxes thereon.

All bookings can be done through limpopo@wol.co.za.
Payments can be made at either our office at Giriyondo border gate (if entering from KNP) or at our head office at Massingir (if entering from Mozambican side) and can be made in SA rands.
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