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Re: Animal charges – does your vehicle play a role?

Unread post by Dup » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:54 pm

Let's widen this subject a bit, it's quite an experience to see a KNP elephant's reaction when a helicopter passes overhead.
They definitely do have a negative reaction to the heli noise.
Last year at Balule we saw an ellie's reacting to the noise even before we heard or saw the heli.
He did not turn on our white bakkie ;) but turned around and it seemed as if he wanted to look up at the sky.
In this case the heli was low flying.
Scrambler motorbike noise also irritates them more than cars (hearsay)
Does anyone know about the opinion that the knp ellies have passed/taught to their calf's the fear of helicopters (associated with culling)?

I agree that incidents happen when a few factors culminate. i.e. musk, fright, noise, irritation, territory (herd) protection.

There's always the possibility of innocent attack i.e. Rhino bumped into a car "attacking car" in the meantime just didn't see the car.
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Re: Animal charges – does your vehicle play a role?

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:10 am

I would not go in a grey (silver) car to a reserve where there are only male rhinos........

My dad had a 'creamish' Camry. The makers called it 'tusk'. We had a few run ins with eles in it.

Bulls in musth, yes, mMums & calves yes, but I have also seen those relaxed from relatively close in.

Another factor is if the previous car annoyed them, you pay for it, and often sub adults -'teenagers' lik humans like a bit of fun at the expense of others.

We have a red hilux and it seems not to bother anything.
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Re: Animal charges – does your vehicle play a role?

Unread post by Groovy » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:51 pm

Elephants dont like cream Toyota Hiluxes, any Landrover, and any noisy Isuzu's. Oh yes VW Jetta's are also not liked. Avis Tazz and other entals also not particularly.

X5 and X6 with large sunrooves, Nissans Landcruisers are still ok.

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Re: Animal charges – does your vehicle play a role?

Unread post by Elsa » Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:47 pm

What we have found is that often Ellies get irritated with cars who have their headlights on, have seen this on more than one occasion, especially in Winter near gate closing time.
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Unread post by Goggo EJ » Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:04 pm

Seems to support my theory that the sudden flash of light from a shiny metal car body or windscreen may cause irritation too.
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Re: Animal charges – does your vehicle play a role?

Unread post by RUMURUTI » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:01 pm

That car lights irritate ellies is know since a long time, at least I've known it.
I believe they see the two lights as an immediate danger and react.
Other animals are hypnotized by head lights but ellies seem to react in a totally different way.
On night transfers and safaris in the bush we knew that plains game remained blocked on the road and all you had to do is switch your headlights off for a second or two.
With elephants it was a different matter, you had to switch both lights and engine off for safety.

If I remember well last year there was an ellie chasing cars near Nkulu, those with their lights off had no hassle but the few that had their lights on were chased for a good stretch.
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Re: Animal charges – does your vehicle play a role?

Unread post by Spaniel » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:28 am

In December on the road between Phalaborwa gate and Letaba an ellie was crossing the road and flapping
ears - obviously quite disturbed about the vehicles around him - we were 3 behind him and 1 coming from the front. The ellie was standing next to the road when suddenly a black Corsa bakkie with a Limpopo registration came screaming past and wow! did he charge. :shock: Everyone else was too scared to move - unfortunately he missed the Corsa(no sympathy for this vehicle). They say ellies don't forget 8) - hope he remembers the Limpopo registration or else all other visitors with black Corsa bakkies are in for a surprise. :whistle:

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Re: Animal charges – does your vehicle play a role?

Unread post by Elsa » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:39 am

RUMURUTI wrote:That car lights irritate ellies is know since a long time, at least I've known it.
And yet, on our recent trip we noticed at least half the cars travelling around the park with headlights on, more than we have ever seen before?

I am also pretty sure it is often that a vehicle has just irritated them as in Spaniel's tale which causes them to take it out on others.
We were parked on the S100 last year watching a breeding herd of Ellies in the road, having just left a Lion sighting, when from the opposite direction a safari vehicle from one of the private reserves decided he was going to get his guests to the Lions no matter what and he drove right up to the herd, revving his engine like crazy and even hooted, sending them into a blind panic.
When he got next to us, SO stopped him and asked him what he was trying to achieve, he just laughed at us but when we told him that we had video footage of his stupid act and was going to report him, the smile soon vanished off his face! :twisted:
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Re: Animal charges – does your vehicle play a role?

Unread post by okie » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:13 pm

:thumbs_up: And did you then report him Elsa
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Re: Animal charges – does your vehicle play a role?

Unread post by Elsa » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:30 pm

okie wrote::thumbs_up: And did you then report him Elsa :hmz:
Oh yes, you bet ya, but never any further feed back despite assurances steps would be taken! :doh:
but hopefully it gave the guide a few sleepless nights or had him wondering where his next job would come from. :?
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Re: Animal charges – does your vehicle play a role?

Unread post by okie » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:54 am

Elsa :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: :D
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Re: Charging Elephants & evasive action! (Elephant Etiquette

Unread post by kevjones » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:12 pm

In April just to prove a point (elephant not me) driving back to Skukuza from Tshokwane we came across a lone bull just walking down the road.
Being in the middle of the road I just kept my distance and followed slowly about my usual 50-70 behind.
This guy did not look in the least bit agro or hyped up in anyway.
The next minute he saw a speed sign board and as if someone had lit a fire cracker up his behind he charged it, grabbed and pulled it out the ground and threw it at an on coming car.
I was only quick enough to grab a photo of the sign board on the ground.

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Re: Charging Elephants & evasive action! (Elephant Etiquette

Unread post by kevjones » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:47 pm

t-bal wrote:Great sighting kevjones.

Obviously that car was speeding, and the elephant decided to remind the driver of the speed limits within the Kruger :tongue: .

But on a serious note, it is amazing how quickly them ellies can change, some times it's like you hit an on-or-of button.


Exactly, not that I am saying it is common but you just never know. Thats what makes the bush the most exiting place in the world. Everyday is different every sighting is different and surprises are waiting round every turn. The roads trees animals are never the same. I love it.

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Re: Charging Elephants & evasive action! (Elephant Etiquette

Unread post by Elsa » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:14 pm

Very similar of maybe even the same incident

katydownunder wrote:03.05.
Coming closer to Shingwedzi we met some Ellis.
And on one occasion had a good laugh.
This Elli was on the way to the entrance of the Mphongolo Loop, were he discovered something lying on the ground. He stopped, he was obviously curious what that might be.
He reached out with his trunk to grab it, he lifted it up, watched it, discovered that is was nothing to eat, threw it away and the Speed Limit sign landed with a bang. :lol:

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Re: Charging Elephants & evasive action! (Elephant Etiquette

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