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Re: Fridges and monkeys

Unread postby GlenD » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:50 am

While staying at Skukuza in January this year, we saw a few large baboons raiding huts fridges and having a feast. I will still chase vervets away but not a baboon.

Vervets are extremely forward as well. One trip while camping at Berg-en-Dal I was sitting under the gazebo chatting on the phone to my dad and out of the corner of my eye saw this vervet lift up the side flap of the gazebo and politely help himself to a packet of bread rolls, while I was sitting right there. Too quick and too clever. Berg-en-Dal's vervets will even bare their teeth at you when trying to get in or our of the communal ablutions.
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Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP

Unread postby ruud » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:29 pm

flying cheetah wrote:
Hippotragus wrote:
Visitors must be fined if caught feeding any animals or birds.

Exactly what I think. But if you tell people not to feed animals they often get very aggressive and many of the people who work at restaurants or picnic spots do not care about this problem. They should get some kind of training concerning this matter :rtm:

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Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP

Unread postby Mant » Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:23 am

There is a very bad monkey problem at Tshokwane Picnic Spot. The last time we were there we had our breakfast stolen from our table.

We also saw some very stupid tourists feeding the monkeys. There is your problem right there.
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Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP

Unread postby PeterPM » Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:32 am

We visited Nkulu picnic site twice at the end of June. On the second visit a very aggressive baboon raided a table of their Portuguese rolls, stole the ice-cream wrapper from a teenager as he was throwing into the bin and then stole a bag of apples from the back of a bakkie.
I suspect that the picnic spots are an easier food source at this time of the year especially as the park is so full during school holidays.

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Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP

Unread postby Blydeboer » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:13 am

I agree with Mant on Tshokwane, and PeterPM on Nkuhlu, having serious monkey problems. Also at Mlondozi dam, there is a troop that is very aggressive. Satara is another place where the monkeys are out of control. I also did not encounter baboons at Afsaal, but they must be there...

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Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP

Unread postby stephan groen » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:30 am

At Tshokwane in 2011 we had a funny encounter with a vervet.

After they stole our bread that we brought along for French toast, we went and bought rolls at the shop. My SO was just sitting down to butter them when the vervet jumped on the table again.

My SO had such a fright she instintively slapped the vervet BANG on the head, now that is not the correct way of dealing with it but the people were rolling around with laughter as we could not establish ho had the biggest scare, the vervet or SO...
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Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP

Unread postby Scops » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:00 am

haha Stephan,

that's a great story - your SO must have been pretty quick to get the klap in as those monkeys are pretty speedy. At Mlondozi, the vervet stole our rolls from under our noses before we could even move !

As said on here by everyone - the tourists feeding them are the problem.
I never know whether to reprimand someone who is feeding the animals - as I have seen people get very defensive about this.

What do other mites do ?

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Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP

Unread postby saraf » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:40 am

The best monkey deterrent I ever saw was one of the anti-poaching dogs based in Tshokwane. One of the handlers brought one over to the picnic site from the ranger station, I have never seen monkeys disappear so fast. While the dog was there everyone had a peaceful breakfast :lol:

A lot of the time people don't feed them, they are just distracted for a second and the monkeys are lightning fast. I have never actually seen anyone deliberately feed a monkey, just be unaware. If I think someone is becoming distracted I will warn them, but to be honest, unless people actually experience a raid they are disbelieving.

When Wacktazz was at Nkulu there were notices everywhere explaining that there was a problem and why it was a bad idea to feed animals. I think it had an affect. At Pafuri Frank warns everyone and gives out a kettie - you only have to pick it up off the tables and they scatter but he can't be everywhere and watch everyone and while we were there the little thieves helped themselves to someone else's tomato.
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Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP

Unread postby Guzz » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:02 am

I've never had a problem at Afsaal, but suppose it could happen anywhere.

We had an incident last year at Nkulu. An Alpha Male baboon jumped onto our table where our baby was in a carry-cot and snatched a loaf of bread out of our basket. SO was hysterical! The staff at Nkulu tried managing the baboons by slamming the lids of dustbins, and threatening them with Tazers, but it wasn't all that effective.
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Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP

Unread postby Maddie88 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:30 am

I would never recommend this to :whistle: ANYONE :whistle: , but here is what we did to stop the monkeys years ago...

We were on a school camp and the monkeys would climb through our windows and raid our sweets which mum sent with us for the two weeks we were on this school camp. Also scavenged everything they could see on our braai or tables where we would eat...

So, we decided to take a few bits and put a small amount of mild nando's sauce on them and leave them around where the monkeys would normally come and raid.

We watched as the monkeys ate them, felt the burn and NEVER came back...

Sometimes a harsh lesson is all they need as their instincts will tell them "Well, that didn't make me feel very good so I won't be going back for more.... rather find some tasty bush food somewhere"

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Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP

Unread postby Porridge » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:08 pm

Scops wrote:As said on here by everyone - the tourists feeding them are the problem.
I never know whether to reprimand someone who is feeding the animals - as I have seen people get very defensive about this.

What do other mites do ?

I have reprimanded people feeding the animals before, with reactions ranging between apologetic and very belligerent. At Tshokwane one year, another bunch of twits throwing chips for the birds and monkeys got themselves an on-the-spot R500 fine for doing so from one of the staff. I now let the staff know, and most of the time it's been handled promptly.
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Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP

Unread postby Hippotragus » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:48 pm

Yes, Blydeboer, a few years ago, very early one morning, my adult (very small) daughter was bitten and scratched by a vervet at Mlondozi. Luckily it didn't break the skin on her arm (tetanus/rabies shots). My daughter is very bush-savvy and it was a sudden, unprovoked attack. I reported the incident to the Section Ranger and lo and behold next time we went to Mlondozi there were no vervets around.
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Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP

Unread postby isinkwe » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:17 pm

These baboons are extremely clever, at tshokwane a few months back, I saw one baboon pose as a decoy, another two baboons positioned themselves out of site using a tree as cover between themselves and their intended victim, the decoy moved closer to the table distracting the people, the other 2 moved in with lightning speed from the opposite direction and grabbed food from the table while everyone was keeping a close eye on the decoy. That was a very well planned and executed plan. Image
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Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP

Unread postby Nkulu » Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:09 pm

I take my trusty water pistol with and do not wait for them to try their luck, I shoot first :sniper: then all I need to do is leave the pistol on the table within reach. Peace and quiet :lol:

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Re: Warning for Afsaal Picnic Spot KNP

Unread postby flying cheetah » Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:15 pm

They should sell these water pistols at the camp shops, you could also use them for people feeding animals :lol:
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