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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by ross hawkins » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:21 am

Johan van Rensburg wrote:
ross hawkins wrote:The eyes of No.1 are a yellow-orange while the next two are orange.



Eye colour in most starlings are not fixed and can change in the same individual within minutes from light yellow to almost blood red all just depending on the stress or excitement level of the birds. (Oxpeckers belong to the same family as starlings - Sturnidae)


Thanks Johan never knew this happened

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by charbel » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:35 am

Hi friends,
We saw these birds at S140, near Talamati.
I identified them as Square-Tailed Drongos. Do you agree?

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Niall » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:14 am

Hi Charbel, Square tailed Drongo is a forest bird, and therefore uncommon in the park. Your birds look like Cape Glossy Starlings.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by charbel » Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:06 am

Hi Niall,

Is the tail of the birds compatible with a Starling? I am not sure...

Besides, I see in the Sasol guide that the distribution area of the Square-Tailed Drongo also includes part of KNP...

If it is a Starling, I'd say Burchell's Starling, since they lack the characteristic yellow eye of the Cape Glossy... What do you think?

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by DotDan » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:46 am

Charbel, there is not even a doubt that your bird is a Starling. Sqaure Tailed Drongo's in KNP is not very likely as they prefer forest habitat.

Unfortunately your pics don't really show too much colour so it is hard to say what Starling we are looking at, but Niall is most probably spot on with is ID of Glossy Starling.. (believe me .. he is always right )

You probably saw a lot of Fork Tailed Drongo's on your trip in the KNP? :D

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Niall » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:57 am

I don't think "he is always right" is correct DD, I have made many a mess up of ID's in my time!

Charbel they are probably young birds, which have darker eyes and dark brown bellies. Shape is wrong for Burchell's, which has a very long tail, and is a much larger bird.

Cape Glossy's: http://www.niall.co.za/Species/bird-pages/764.htm
Burchell's: http://www.niall.co.za/Species/bird-pages/762.htm

Square tailed Drongo has a cherry red eye, which would also be evident in the pic, as well as a very different jizz. Excuse the quality of the photo: http://www.niall.co.za/Species/bird-pages/542.htm

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Re: Starlings: Glossy Starling

Unread post by okie » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:31 pm

So many of these birds in Kruger , but not many pics of them :)


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Re: Starlings: Glossy Starling

Unread post by naomi c » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:01 pm

This time of the year, early mornings, after I have put out the birdfood, I can almost make-believe I am in KNP. Dozens of Cape Glossy Starlings make use of my "take-away" - the bonemeal being the main attraction.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by jaffles » Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:09 pm

Need help for ID.
Seen in Botswana Chobe NP in May.
I'm confused about the tail. Is it a cape glossy starling or is it a sharp tailed starling???

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:06 am

jaffles wrote:Need help for ID.
Seen in Botswana Chobe NP in May.
I'm confused about the tail. Is it a cape glossy starling or is it a sharp tailed starling???

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Looking at some pics on the web it may be the latter? But please note I am still relative newbie when it comes to bird IDs, so maybe wait for someone more knowledgable to answer?

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by wildtuinman » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:26 am

jaffles wrote:Need help for ID.
Seen in Botswana Chobe NP in May.
I'm confused about the tail. Is it a cape glossy starling or is it a sharp tailed starling???

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I have never seen a Sharp-tailed Starling, but the tail certainly doesn't fit the description in this photo...
do you have any other photos?
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by jaffles » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:57 am

Hallo Wildtuinman,

only one pic, which is similar


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I'm really interessted, what you think


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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:28 pm

I just cannot decide whether the bird has a facial mask or not. It also seems quite dark. How much work was done on the photo during the editing process? It seems to have a facial mask, but it doesn't extend as far back (over the ear coverts) to fully qualify as a Greater Blue-eared Starling. In the end I don't think I can change it into anything else than a Cape Glossy Starling.

Black-bellied, Miombo Blue-eared and Sharp-tailed Starlings would be out of distribution for Chobe.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:32 pm

Sharp-tailed also has an extensive facial mask, similar to that of Greater Blue-eared Starling which I cannot see on this bird.
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